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@scarves im friends with everypony...so YEH! whats up dude?
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@thephilosophicalbrony Aww, I haven't met you yet! Hii!! I'm seb. Also love philosophy. If fluttershy falls in the everfree forest and no one is there to hear her, does she make a sound?
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@sebastian1314 if she does it will be a cute sound
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@trister Agreed. Also, they took down !pett a while ago for some retarded reason.
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@sebastian1314 wait... so no more !PETT? that's an outrage!... well... sort of... actually, not really, but still
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@trister What was !pett?
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@ceruleanspark people for the ethical treatment of tongues, it was the result of a rather silly conversation
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@ceruleanspark WHAT'S THAT WHITE THING D:
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@trister What was it about? sounds kinda...innuendo-y so that might by what got it?
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@sebastian1314 I will not be joining that one, I'd rather distance myself from that whole event
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@trister I find your lack of muffin disturbing.
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@ceruleanspark nope, someone was talking about their tongue sticking to a lamp post or something, and how it felt like bits of it had come off... so we advised that people should treat their tongues better
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@trister that doesn't seem delete-worthy at all!
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@sebastian1314 oh, I'm all for Derpy, I just don't think the reaction itself will go anywhere. I can head over to a fanfic site and read a Derpy fic whenever I want like nothing had changed
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@ceruleanspark it's an extremely worthy cause, did you know people BITE their OWN tongues on a daily basis, we cannot let this barbarity continue
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@trister The reason I'm such a jerk about it is because I think the backlash is going to hurt us in the long run. People harrasing the VAs, and even Lauren Faust about this crap? That's not gonna make them want to have anything to do with us in future.
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@ceruleanspark Y-YOU!
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@ceruleanspark I also disagree that attacking the Derpy protestors is justified, since it won't stop them, only aggravate people more if anything
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@trister Yeah, but if they're mad at me they're not harrassing Tara Strong or spamming Hasbro corporate or w/e
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@ceruleanspark though with the invention of multiple tabs they still could be...
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@trister I think we can do it. I KNOW we can do it.
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@trister I got bored anyway. I felt like I had to say SOMETHING, if only to say I tried, but yeah, crashing idiocy into idiots was never a good way to try and improve the situation
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@sebastian1314 well maybe something will come from it, but I don't think that's likely. We shall see though, I'm not going to get in the way
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@carcino yes me.
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@sebastian1314 But what do you get? They recorded an alternate voice. She's still going to be an Easter egg, you'll still be able to find the original, and the community is still going to love her.
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@ceruleanspark 'I felt like I had to say SOMETHING, if only to say I tried' it seems you are not so different from some of the protestors though your motives are different.
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@trister The difference is, I realised I was being stupid and stopped, whilst they're still going. Whilst I can't (and won't) unsay the things I said, I'm done adding more to the pile.
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@greatandpowerfuleaglehooves and thats what counts.
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@trister I have faith
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@ceruleanspark YOU HAD THAT PICTURE.
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@carcino You noticed too? D:
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@nerthos YES.
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@carcino I don't know WHAT it was, but it sure was weird.
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@nerthos I sold my soul to it for towels once.
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@carcino So, it was a white rabbit-like grocer store owner?
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@nerthos I guess.
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@sebastian1314 no because sound can only be sound when deciphered by the human process...before that it is just energy, kinda ruined that with physics...sorry
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@thephilosophicalbrony Aww... Anyways, just thought I'd throw ya a classic and see how you would respond.
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@sebastian1314 haha thanks, i appreciate any conversations really...so whats new?
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@thephilosophicalbrony Not much, just doing HW and helping !saveDerpy . =P You?
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@sebastian1314 same as usual...and im a little upset i signed a petition to !saveDerpy and i know it got enough signatures and they went and changed her anyway
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@thephilosophicalbrony Yeah I know right?! Hasbro needs to learn that there are people called trolls, that just want to f*** stuff up and annoy people.
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@yuri yeh i play apb more now, the community on LoL is kinda weak now :/
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@scarves i am still in school studying it, and it is an interest so i do take the time to try and fully understand it, but this is why i like the feedback to help me understand too
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@scarves my strongest belief is that nobody has the right to impose beliefs on anybody else...its hard to explain my philosphies entirely, i usually just go piece by piece when somebody asks me "how do you feel about this?"
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@scarves but im big into eastern philosphies with the whole ying and yang properties, and i believe that all these philosophers throughout history have a point and you cant just say one is right and one is wrong
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@scarves yin*
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@thephilosophicalbrony that's not how petitions work. they are suggestions, not demands. all a petition is is basically saying "this many people feel this way about this issue." It isn't ignoring a petition to not do what it says.
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@adrianbrony though I respect your position on the matters may I ask you to please not stoke these fires any more than they already have been
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@adrianbrony This won't work. I tried yesterday to explain to people that this wasn't a big deal. I had someone tell me that if bronies stopped buying stuff hasbro would go bankrupt, so they'd better listen to us "or else". Common sense and logic are wasted here
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@ceruleanspark Common sense and logic are wasted whenever humans are involved :P
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@omni 'common' sense is probably the most ironic phrase in the English Language
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@trister So true...
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@trister Similar to "humane". It sounds like "human" but humans are the sickest creatures I know of...
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@omni kind of, yeah. humane is meant to reflect ideal qualities that don't always exist in society
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@adrianbrony i realize this but what im saying is that in a democratic society if there are over 12000 signatures on a petition in favor of saving derpy, in this case, opposed to 10 who think it should be censored...youd think 12000>10
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@thephilosophicalbrony Democracy is merely a lie in an attempt to get us to believe our opinions are valued. How often does it happen that an entire street, city or even state protests against something the government decides but it still happens? Randomly googling for that and, for example, nuclear power plants will show a lot. Besides that, I don't think it's reasonable to apply "democracy" to a private business, as those are unrelated.
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@thephilosophicalbrony but there weren't just 10 people complaining, and even if all the bronies were on board with saving derpy, that is still a minority of the shows viewerbase. and even if it was the majority, you forget that not EVERYTHING is a democracy. Companies are only a democracy if it is public and you are a shareholder. otherwise, no, you are not entitled to have your opinions on the matter decide for them, no matter how popular it is. Like I said before, hasbro has been facing criticism from all directions, and if yoh think this is just about ableism, you need to realize that when things got a little unpleasant for us, we totally lost it. hasbro no longer knows if they can trust us when we send people death threats over a background character. They don't want us to forget who is running the show.
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@adrianbrony You just keep knocking them out of the park there. <3
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@adrianbrony it was just a metaphor to show that there was a greater number of poeple in favor of saving derpy...i know this for a fact
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@thephilosophicalbrony [citation needed]
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@thephilosophicalbrony Claiming something as a fact insinuates you have proof
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@thephilosophicalbrony first of all, a greater number of BRONIES are in favor of her not being changed. we are nowhere near the majority of fans. Second, it doesn't matter how many bronies want the show to be a certain way, because the last thing any show needs is its fanbase thinking the fans are the ones in control of the show. when that happens you will end up with an unpleasable fanbase because then the fans feel like they are entitled to something. If that is the case, that derpy was taken down, not because she was found offensive, but because hasbro realized that they were about to head down a path full of landmines, then the only thing the petitions will do is confirm that the fans feel entitled to their ideas being in the show.
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@adrianbrony please dont perpetuate this arguement
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