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Tuesday, 05-Apr-11 01:06:59 UTC from web-
@conventrix it looks good on paper, but Socialism seems terrible is practice. At least that's what I see in other countries..
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:39:12 UTC from web -
@conventrix Stalinism doesn't work as far as I've seen in real life, but Socialism as a whole isn't bad I think. Ancient Christians were even encouraged to make all their resources common with one another in true socialist form.. The problem is that any bit of corruption seems to ruin it for everypony. What makes democratic socialism any better then?
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:44:31 UTC from web-
@pony >implying that stalinism is in any way the same thing as socialism
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:47:08 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel neigh. that's not what i meant. I mean they're different, but Stalinism is certainly an example of how it can go wrong.
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:48:24 UTC from web-
@pony It's an example of corruption, quite simply. You can find the same things in any other corrupt government no matter what system they are using. The practice of socialism itself did not enable it, it simply wasn't able to stop it- and this is only in the hypothetical scenario in which they had ever been practicing it to begin with, which is plainly false. Stalinism was an extreme form of corruption that grew out of what was already a corrupt government that had hijacked a popular revolution to get itself installed, something that happens all the time because revolutions are often very chaotic and disorganized. The lucky ones are those that come out of it with their ideals intact and are able to then put them into practice.
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:58:14 UTC from web
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@pony Corruption will always exist, no matter what system is being used. It is not a problem that can ever be "solved" without resorting to means most would consider moral atrocities. All you can do is try to account for it in the way you design the system, remembering that any system ultimately comes down to everyone agreeing to follow the rules. What means does the system provide for identifying when the rules have been broken and for doing something about it?
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:52:05 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel That's exactly why a democratic republic works so well in actual practice (not just in theory). Because of checks and balances the negative effects of corruption are minimized. We're still susceptible to factions and our judicial branch has overstepped its boundaries, but the government that the U.S. founding fathers instituted has worked better than any other system in history considering the circumstances (albeit it's far from perfect). I hope you'll forgive me for not being able to explain very well.. I'm not really into politics.
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:57:59 UTC from web-
@pony It has not been working so well of late.
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:59:53 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel I agree. We've deviated too far from our original system. It happens to even the best governments when there's enough corruption or when well meaning individuals think they ought to step outside their boundaries.
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 02:07:29 UTC from web
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@conventrix Even if the system isn't the best one, socialist candidates tend to be idealists, and so less corrupt than their counterparts.
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:44:59 UTC from web -
@comradeconventrix I don't really get what democratic socialism is/how it works differently than pure socialism. That seems to be my main difficulty here.
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:49:41 UTC from web -
@comradeconventrix meh.. looking stuff up.. I do that so much for school already. Anyway it sounds interesting.
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:52:14 UTC from web -
@comradeconventrix cba for isms :D My awesome brain will determine what is right and when I'm wrong society will try to correct me and if they don't... oh grapes, I'm doomed O_O
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@comradeconventrix cool thanks!
Saturday, 31-Mar-12 01:58:14 UTC from web
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