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Who here is a graphics madpony? AMD Graphics, best card for £100-£200 (or euros)?
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@jdadoley I would recommend against AMD. Then again, I'm only recommending against it because their Linux drivers are utter crap which probably won't matter much if you're a Windows user.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 14:31:34 UTC from Choqok-
@omni I'm going AMD processor because of price so I've been told, and would assume, an AMD GPU would be a good pair but yea, I have heard their Linux drivers aren't good and there is an opensource nvidia driver (experimental but they're trying :P)
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@jdamurdocky But AMD and Nvidia have Open Source drivers made by people not affiliated with the companies built into the kernel, but the performance of those Open Source drivers is generally less than 10% of the proprietary, official drivers.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 14:35:21 UTC from Choqok-
@omni I just wanted an upgrade ;( I want to replace my PC with a decent upgrade to my Core 2 Quad and Geforce 9800GTX, I'm almost certainly getting an AMD processor since the price difference is soooo different
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@omni heh, i once tried installin the proprietary driver for an AMD card on my laptop. It promptly broke linux completely.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 14:41:01 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@techdisk42 It tends to do that on Debian-based distributions a lot. On Arch Linux the AMD driver was relatively stable for me.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 14:50:01 UTC from Choqok-
@omni well... Damn. I may have to seriously reconsider either Ubuntu or ATi. Swapping for Arch would be... Freer, but I've been using Ubuntu forever. GAA.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 14:55:49 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@techdisk42 You need to make sure you have enough time for something like Arch, as you're building your desktop from scratch pretty much. Ubuntu would be easier for sure. I mean, if you're lucky it will work, but ATI is pretty much asking for trouble when it comes to Linux :P
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:22:30 UTC from Choqok-
@omni Yeah.. i know, i put ubuntu on my desktop one time... and spent a total of three days trying to fix a display problem, which was due to ATI/AMD having crap linux support :P
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:25:06 UTC from web-
@pixeltwister I think Ubuntu is too boring, having everything set up for you. Besides that, I truly find Unity and GNOME to be too limiting for me. If I have to use one of the more popular desktop environments I'd use KDE, perhaps Cinnamon (if it wouldn't require PulseAudio) but I'll never say goodbye to awesome, it truly fits its name.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:28:41 UTC from Choqok-
@omni I want to love KDE, but it always seems buggy to me. Most recently, I couldn't shutdown or reboot without having it reposition a boatload of my icons, among other less-severe issues which I can't recall.
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@scribus Which distribution did you use it on? It was an unstable mess on Kubuntu for me but it runs quite well under Arch Linux. I must admit it's not the most stable Desktop Environment out there though.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:31:42 UTC from Choqok-
@omni It was Kubuntu. XD I also want to use Arch more, but I just haven't found the time to invest in getting it fully set up. Good to know, though.
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@scribus Kubuntu has always been a mess, really. It's because the *buntu's don't like updating often, so when a bugfix release is released Kubuntu generally won't get it until half a year later. Really, it's the worst KDE distro ever, it doesn't seem like they like KDE at all.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:34:41 UTC from Choqok-
@omni Heinous. I can kind of understand a "stick with what's proven reliable, don't be bleeding edge" mentality, but it does cause it's share of issues. =/ And I kind of wonder if it might be because of their current focus on Unity, but I have nothing but curiosity on that topic - not even legit suspicion.
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@scribus Even when Kubuntu was still officially recognised they've never liked it much. Things like Ubuntu One not being available for Kubuntu shows it pretty well. Canonical is too afraid of new stuff breaking things that they decide to only update once every 6 months, no matter how important an update is. Like when Microsoft changed the MSN network, Canonical refused to allow the new version of libpurple in, making it impossible for Kubuntu users to use the MSN network for 3 months, until the next update. That was also the time I left Kubuntu, it was clear they didn't care about it at all.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:40:39 UTC from Choqok
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@omni Ubuntu's also pretty unstable... i had it on an old sony laptop for a year or something... and it would constantly fail from something or other. also, i enjoy using weird and wonderful os'es like haiku... they have a certain charm that you dont get with big name OSes like ubuntu or windows :P
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:38:54 UTC from web-
@pixeltwister I've never tried Haiku yet, I wanted to try it but got put off by the size of the main developer's ego. Guess I should give it a try, it doesn't look all that bad.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:41:18 UTC from Choqok-
@omni Iy's basically just a modern re-iteration of be os, iv'e tried it on real hardware... and it's pretty snappy. Though don't expect much in the way of program support :)
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 16:22:34 UTC from web-
@pixeltwister Tried it shortly. Must say, it booted up and shut down really quickly, even in a Virtual Machine. I like the basic design ideas. The problem is, I prefer to use my keyboard over my mouse whenever possible and Haiku doesn't seem to be based around the keyboard, even though it had a fair amount of keyboard shortcuts, so I felt I'm slower with my daily tasks on there than I am with them on my awesome (not bragging, it's the name of the window manager I use) desktop.
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@pixeltwister I gave Haiku a little try once, couldn't reallt find anything to do with it. Seemed slick, but it was way too young to be useful.
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Sunday, 01-Apr-12 15:47:05 UTC from web
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@scribus Yeah.. tried it myself out of curiosity once... it's nice, but to be honest you can't really do much with it.
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 16:23:47 UTC from web-
@pixeltwister Totally. And people think OS X is limited? :p
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 16:28:01 UTC from web
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@omni oh... Maybe I should rethink my next computer parts, then... Dangit I like ATi! (don't care they're AMD now. ATi is a Canadian company, and I will refer to it as such.)
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 14:34:33 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@techdisk42 lolol, they're pretty much the same, AMD just wanted access to their tech for their APUs (CPU/GPU hybrids) and stuff. Also money is good too :3
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@jdaapplesy pretty much gut and run...
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 14:38:14 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@techdisk42 lolol not gut, AMD Graphics still pumps out what you remember ATI for, epic graphics cards, AMD just wanted that tech for use in their products too, not competing
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@jdamangoesy I guess so. I just don't like the fact they pasted AMD on everything now. I hate it when companies buy something and, rather than allow brand loyalty, they paste their name all over it. Example: the Toronto SkyDome is now the Rogers Centre. they could have at least called it the Rogers SkyDome...
Sunday, 01-Apr-12 14:44:04 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@techdisk42 Seriously I was thinking of that the other day, back when Oracle DESTROYED Sun Microsystems lol, all of a sudden I saw the horrible big red ORACLE logo on EVERRRRYTHING, Java, Virtualbox, everything! Even Sun's server racks! Was horrible... *shakes*
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