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  1. Oh, now that I _definitely_ like (another # warning). !mintrefresh doesn't intercept "In context" clicks, unlike RDNrefresh. I mean, don't get me wrong, the way they don't load a new page in RDNrefresh is kinda nice, but more often than not it breaks somehow (for example, it's _never_ loaded successfully for me from a single-notice page, but it's still intercepted there), and the capturing of the event prevents me from ctrl+click'ing to open the actual link in a new tab (yes, I know there are other shortcuts, but it's still not good that it breaks the one I can happily use elsewhere).

    Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:28:01 UTC from web
    1. @bitshift Unknown bug #: Sometimes those links don't appear. >_< Just so you know. xD

      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:31:11 UTC from web
    2. Although, on the general topic of "in context" links, I can second what @alargesmallhorse said about them not always showing up where they should. Not entirely sure what's up with that, but I guess I'll have a bash (starting tomorrow, it's late tonight) at helping squash that bug. !mintrefresh

      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:31:14 UTC from web
      1. @bitshift Lolol have fun with that. The way it gets in-context links is really hacked together. :/

        Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:31:50 UTC from web
        1. @minti That sounds worrying. Still, it can't hurt to at least have a try. :P

          Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:33:46 UTC from web
          1. @bitshift Heh, true. It was an issue that the Json version of the API, which my script uses, doesn't have ANY information about conversations. So I basically make a one-off fetch to the atom version to get the conversation link. That fails randomly sometimes. :/ (Also the atom one doesn't have information about attachments so blaaah.)

            Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:36:49 UTC from web
            1. @minti Ah, you use the API. That would explain why you can't just grab the "in context" link straight from the post, unlike RDNrefresh (at least, I'm _pretty_ sure that fetches the actual HTML page and then scrapes it).

              Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:39:01 UTC from web
              1. @bitshift Yep, that's what Refresh does. I found it inefficient and decided to write my own script to use the API. Man, making the API data match the site is hard as heck.

                Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:40:16 UTC from web
                1. @minti Any clue how the desktop app gets the data? It processes conversation links. (Then again it's a skinned browser window, so it probably just grabs the HTML? lol)

                  Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:43:30 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
                  1. @redenchilada It uses the AtomPub file, which I've been meaning to switch over too for awhile. Sad thing is though, if I do I'll loose access to any data related to attachments.

                    Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:44:22 UTC from web
                  2. @redenchilada Probably via the AtomPub api.

                    Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:44:38 UTC from web
    3. @darkw00d StatusNet in general does. Also iPhone and Android apps. They're pretty nice, if badly-written lol.

      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:44:52 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
      1. @redenchilada The _biggest_ problem with the official apps is the SN developers insistence on using Titanium for the sake of only developing once but releasing on several platforms. That, in theory, would be a plus, except that in practice Titanium produces horribly bloated apps with not-quite-native-looking UI on everything. So it works, but it looks slightly odd, and can get _painfully_ slow at times, even on my (fairly beefy) phone.

        Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:51:16 UTC from web
        1. @bitshift Yeah, it really does bother me that it lags so much on my SII. :/ It works well enough, though, and I really don't like Mustard's interface.

          Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:53:24 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
          1. @redenchilada If you're on Android 4 (it certainly exists for the SII, but some carriers are much slower than others at getting it onto their customers' phones), consider trying the beta (http://mustard.macno.org/0.4.0). It fixes pretty much all the little niggles I had with the earlier versions' UI, though annoyingly the Public timeline view seems to have currently gone missing (at least as of the latest released build at the time I'm posting this).

            Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:58:35 UTC from web
            1. @bitshift I can't live without Public. Plus I'm still on Gingerbread. (I've rooted, but haven't bothered to try a custom ROM yet.)

              Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:59:32 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
              1. @redenchilada Lol just noticed your avatar. :p

                Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:00:29 UTC from web
                1. @minti It is ORIGENAL CERACTOR DO NUT STEEL

                  Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:01:19 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
                  1. @redenchilada *Steals*

                    Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:02:06 UTC from web
                    1. @stumperman *bans*

                      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:02:40 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
                      1. @redenchilada :(

                        Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:03:27 UTC from web
              2. @redenchilada Yeah, I've been mostly using the mobile site since we got the custom mobile layout. Lack of public timeline is not particularly great for using this site.

                Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:01:22 UTC from web
                1. @bitshift Honestly, I want something with the general layout of Mustard, but with easy access to the various timelines like SNA. I might have to write my own client, lol.

                  Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:02:29 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
                  1. @redenchilada I have wondered a few times about forking Mustard, but I'm not really conversant enough in Android's particular flavour of Java, so it'd probably flounder.

                    Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:04:28 UTC from web
                    1. @bitshift I tried modding it, but I'm still a complete failure at reading other people's code.

                      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:05:52 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
                  2. @redenchilada As far as my tastes go, I'd love something with tabs like the G+ app (i.e., vertically very thin, and you can swipe the entire page to switch between them), but with the content of each tab being in Mustard's nice and simple vertical list layout. So yeah, if I developed my own (which is definitely a possibility), that's pretty much how I'd do it. :)

                    Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:09:41 UTC from web
                    1. @bitshift I've never used the G+ app. It sounds like something I've seen yaaic do, though, and I like that approach.

                      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:12:58 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
    4. @darkw00d The mobile app is generally more convenient and better-laid out. Plus it's seperated from your browser.

      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:47:16 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
    5. @darkw00d Mobile app is away better.

      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:48:00 UTC from web
    6. @darkw00d @minti Way* Heh. xD

      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 01:48:32 UTC from web
    7. @darkw00d It's still more original than the average Sonic fancharacter. #

      Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:04:32 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
      1. @redenchilada SLIVER THE HEGHOG IS MY ORIGENAL CHARACTAR, PLZ DO NOT STEAL

        Thursday, 19-Apr-12 02:05:26 UTC from web

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