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The Cabal has arrived.
Monday, 04-Apr-11 23:23:56 UTC from web-
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:32:27 UTC from web
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Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:32:40 UTC from web
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@oracle a mission?
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:34:39 UTC from web-
@prettypurpleprincesspublicprincesstimeline As in Missionary work, rather than like...infiltrating Shadow Moses island.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:35:23 UTC from web-
@ceruleanspark drat
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:57:26 UTC from web
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Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:34:52 UTC from web
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@oracle Take the $20K, use it to rent a house in another state, laugh forever.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:35:05 UTC from web -
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:36:05 UTC from web
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@oracle And I'm guessing you've given the faith your best shot and still don't see the appeal right?
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:37:03 UTC from web -
@oracle you don't need to be Christian to help people. The Religious part of a missions trip is to give people here a reason and a means to go, and to give people without hope something to cling on to
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:41:52 UTC from web -
@oracle I guess you're probably discussing it with me because you wonder if it would be immoral to go regardless. You do qualify as far as I know. I mean your moral standards are up to par. I'd talk to your bishop about whether he'd approve you going regardless of not holding any conviction, rather holding anti-conviction. It's possible, though unlikely, that if you'd be willing to set your anti-conviction aside, your bishop might see a mission as an opportunity for you to come to appreciate the faith in ways you haven't yet had the chance to experience, and he'd let you slip past the bar, so to speak. You could get the money, serve, hopefully grow as a person, etc. Thing is, if money is all you want you can just earn it, probably more quickly than it would take to serve a mission. If you did go, could you see any good coming of your service?
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:45:04 UTC from web -
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:47:09 UTC from web
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@oracle "In this moment I am euphoric, not because of some phony gods blessing, but because I am enlightened by my intelligence" - Carl Sagan
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:47:41 UTC from web -
@oracle I agree with this. Missionary work is tricky because of how it's done. A big example is what's going on in underdeveloped countries where christian schools are popping up overnight. Essentially, they're teaching revisionalist history and give everything on the condition that the kids say what they're receiving comes from God, and not the charity of those people. It's classy brainwashing. And this goes on in impoverished countries that create druglord regimes, and start wars over religious beliefs. So, you're right to say no to your parents.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:56:28 UTC from web -
@oracle what do mormon missions do
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 09:57:53 UTC from web-
@prettypurpleprincesspublicprincesstimeline We're up front. Take our message or say no and we leave you alone basically. Missionaries will do service, but we make no condition that those being served have to accept our message.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 10:01:03 UTC from web-
@tia the missions I refer to are ones where the inhabitants can't really say no, so it's unfair for them. Not even through language barrier reasons, but they're not in a position to turn down food and clean water, and medicine. But once they accept, they're up to their noses in unsolicited indoctrination. They're being told their gods and their spirits they believe in are wrong, or just being told they're way of life is wrong if they don't believe in anything (unlikely but you see my point), and they're pressured to go along in fear of losing clean water and facilities for their children. I am aware there are all sorts of missions, not missions are international, and that what I describe may not describe the specific unique missions you or your church participates in. But what I describe is is true, is happening as we speak, and is quite immoral.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 10:08:46 UTC from web-
@prettypurpleprincesspublicprincesstimeline I'm aware. It's unfortunate that charity is confused by the anti-religious for tyranny and that the religious sometimes confuse selfishness for charity.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 10:13:18 UTC from web-
@tia I'm not confusing anything here. When people go to an underdeveloped country to a non-modern tribe or culture, go "want clean food and water?," the leaders of those people have no choice. Then the missionaries there can say whatever they want now and it will be considered truth, and those people won't know any better. It isn't tyranny, it's just immoral. I challenge those missions to provide clean water, food, facilities and medicine to these third-world cultures without putting the gospel price tag on it, and see if they're still willing to give all that away.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 10:19:21 UTC from web-
@prettypurpleprincesspublicprincesstimeline I didn't say you were confusing anything. I don't know much about other faiths' predicatory practices (maybe a bit more than some), only what I've seen first hand. Therefore I can't judge them.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 10:51:34 UTC from web -
@prettypurpleprincesspublicprincesstimeline You did seem to assume things about my own faith's missionary practices.
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 10:53:00 UTC from web-
@tia look at my posts and you'll see the words "your missions do THIS" or "all missions do THIS." So no, didn't make any assumptions. I know a lot of missions are also within the states, my dad did them all the time (I wonder if he still does actually)
Thursday, 16-Jan-14 09:38:46 UTC from web
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@tia not all*
Wednesday, 15-Jan-14 10:09:42 UTC from web
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