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Ugh for some reason today Firefox is using over 900,000K memory, making everything just a bit slow, and I'm not doing anything different than usual.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:45:14 UTC from web-
@ecmc Try closing it and reopening it.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:46:24 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel Hurr. Of course, I don't know why I didn't think of that in the first place. But yeah, that seems to have fixed it.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:51:20 UTC from web-
@ecmc Welcome to the wonderful world of memory leaks :D
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:52:10 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel @ecmc And the reason why I seem to be coming off Firefox. If it wants to use 1GB of memory, while I've got one tab open, without opening and closing, then I don't want any business with it.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:54:31 UTC from web-
@scribble Just don't leave it open overnight. Problem solved. Most of the memory leaks aren't firefox's fault anyway, they're caused by flash.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:55:48 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel I never do. It's usually an hour of browsing, and then it lags like hell on everything.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:57:43 UTC from web-
@scribble Do you load any flash objects early into that hour?
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:58:21 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel @widget Usually. But then again, YouTube's HTML5 roll out doesn't work (as in some use it, others don't), so in order to use it, I need Flash.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:00:29 UTC from web-
@scribble That's pretty much the problem. Flash stays open once it's been loaded, even after you close all pages with flash objects on them. It continues to leak memory the entire time.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:02:40 UTC from web
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@widget Only extension I seem to have is Adblock, and that can't be using that much memory.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:56:23 UTC from web-
@scribble This seems to be your problem. Try running noscript too, it helps a ton.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:00:31 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel I tried NoScript, but hated the fact it popped up every single time with stuff I don't know about.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:02:26 UTC from web-
@scribble You can configure it to not use pop ups.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:03:40 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel I've never seen that option. And besides, what would NoScript even do to make Firefox work better anyway?
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:04:35 UTC from web-
@scribble You didn't look hard enough then. And what it does is prevent scripts and flash objects from loading that you don't allow it to load. Preventing these greatly improves performance and reduces the amount of memory leaks.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:06:47 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel But the only Flash thing I don't want to see is ads, usually. Flash sites and YouTube are the only things stopping me from uninstalling it.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:08:03 UTC from web-
@scribble It allows you to selectively load only the flash objects you want to see and only when you want to see them. This has an additional benefit on youtube in that nothing autoplays by default.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:09:29 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel But the problem is having to select each one I don't want, one by one, and deactivate it. I'd rather not go through that much work just to make it slightly better. Besides, Chrome runs well and doesn't seem to use up memory like it's a buffet.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:11:52 UTC from web-
@scribble The extra work is worth it, IMO. In addition to the performance benefits I also obtain peace of mind in knowing that I'm most likely not running any malicious scripts.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:14:03 UTC from web-
@toksyuryel But how will I know what's malicious or not? I'd rather not spend 10 minutes seeing if a script is malicious or not for each and every one of them. Maybe I'm just hard to please. http://ur1.ca/9afkt
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:15:54 UTC from web-
@scribble Middle clicking on a domain in its list takes you to a page where you can view the WOT scorecard for the site which usually also includes a short description of what kind of site it is. It generally takes only a couple seconds to see whether a domain is worth enabling or not once you get used to the process.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:17:50 UTC from web
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@widget Like my car!
Tuesday, 22-May-12 17:58:49 UTC from web -
@widget Yeah that's the problem with flash, once you load it it does not close itself. Even after you navigate away from the page with the flash object it stays open in the background, continuing to leak memory.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:01:52 UTC from web -
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:03:46 UTC from web
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@widget isn't that clicktoflash?
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:04:09 UTC from web -
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:04:54 UTC from web
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Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:05:25 UTC from web
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@widget Unfortunate considering it's non-technical users who could benefit the most from having it.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:05:38 UTC from web -
@widget Just a heads-up, RDNRefresh seems to run better for me with Scriptish than with Greasemonkey.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:07:29 UTC from web-
@colfax Firefox 12 has a bug which causes problems for Greasemonkey. This has been a known issue for weeks now. The problem is fixed in Firefox 13.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:08:29 UTC from web
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@widget That's why I didn't like it. I keep seeing that it's necessary, but having to change certain things for every single site I visit is a pain I'd rather not deal with.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:10:23 UTC from web-
@scribble You only have to do it once for each site. The settings persist and are remembered when you return. And you only have to do it when something doesn't work. If the site works fine without scripts there's usually no reason to enable them for that site.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:11:49 UTC from web
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@widget It's a nuisance at first, but once it becomes a habit I've found myself enjoying reading the WOT page for each domain and determining whether or not to block it. There's a strange kind of pleasure to be had in marking another tracking, analytics, or ad site as "untrusted".
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:10:49 UTC from web -
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:12:48 UTC from web
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@widget Oh? Well that's good to know.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:13:05 UTC from web -
@widget They'd rather waste it with their antivirus I guess.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:14:51 UTC from web -
@widget I take it you're blocking RDN's analytics?
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:17:12 UTC from web -
@widget If you're just reflexively blocking every JS wouldn't it be even faster to just turn of JS in the browser wholesale
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:17:55 UTC from web-
@ceruleanspark Because we don't block *every* js, just the ones that aren't required for the site to function as desired.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:19:35 UTC from web
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@widget Fair enough. I /am/ using the data for evil.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:19:04 UTC from web-
@ceruleanspark oh no now cerulean can tell how many time I've searched notices for "clop" in the last three hours ( #spoiler nine)
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@redenchilada I can actually see that in realtime too. It's really rather impressive
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:20:39 UTC from web-
@ceruleanspark ...Really? :3c
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@redenchilada "Cerulean Spark is the worst admin"
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:26:55 UTC from web-
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@redenchilada I see ALL
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:28:10 UTC from web-
@ceruleanspark and see some.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:29:41 UTC from StatusNet iPhone
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@redenchilada js isn't required for that actually, and indeed I can't see how it would be useful for it.
Tuesday, 22-May-12 18:20:50 UTC from web
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