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  1. Narwhal Narwhal

    Hey internet I'm a straight white male in a first world country living in a warm house AMA

    Sunday, 14-Dec-14 01:57:40 UTC from web
    1. mrdee mrdee

      @northernnarwhal good job!!(8^D>)

      Sunday, 14-Dec-14 01:59:10 UTC from web
      1. Narwhal Narwhal

        @dawson That's not a question

        Sunday, 14-Dec-14 01:59:53 UTC from web
        1. mrdee mrdee

          @northernnarwhal or is it?

          Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:01:33 UTC from web
          1. Narwhal Narwhal

            @dawson No, it isn't.

            Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:02:09 UTC from web
            1. mrdee mrdee

              @northernnarwhal are you sure?

              Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:02:33 UTC from web
              1. Narwhal Narwhal

                @dawson I'm not sure about anything these days.

                Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:02:51 UTC from web
                1. mrdee mrdee

                  @northernnarwhal are you sure that two plus two is four?

                  Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:03:47 UTC from web
                  1. Narwhal Narwhal

                    @dawson No, actually.

                    Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:04:06 UTC from web
                    1. mrdee mrdee

                      @northernnarwhal me either

                      Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:05:43 UTC from web
                    2. mrdee mrdee

                      @northernnarwhal seriously do you know?

                      Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:07:13 UTC from web
                      1. Narwhal Narwhal

                        @dawson Depends. Mathematically, yes. From an epistemological perspective, not entirely.

                        Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:08:44 UTC from web
                        1. mrdee mrdee

                          @northernnarwhal ..proceed

                          Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:14:37 UTC from web
                          1. Narwhal Narwhal

                            If you insist I'll try and expand a bit. So like, math is a concept with rules, right? Cool. So within the confines of a mathematical context, using the set of real numbers as defined by the laws of mathematics we can determine 2 added to another 2 will result in 4. Now, the tricky part, like I mentioned earlier, comes with the epistemological side of this problem. Like, an empiricist might argue without tangible perception of this concept outside of its representation on paper there's no way of "knowing" it, whereas a rationalist might say knowledge is innate and therefore by thinking of 2+2=4 you prove that you know it. A follower of skepticism might say that the idea of 2 added to itself equaling 4 is not innate and is being manipulated by a force outside of our own minds, using a contrast case as an example, but a verificationist could argue this by saying that the use of math as a system validates and therefores proves the knowledge of 2+2=4.

                            Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:25:21 UTC from web
                            1. orungano orungano

                              @northernnarwhal I have a question

                              Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:25:57 UTC from web
                              1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                @mastertdi Hm?

                                Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:28:13 UTC from web
                                1. orungano orungano

                                  @northernnarwhal I have lots of questions and they all start with "what" and end with confused vulgarities

                                  Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:28:50 UTC from web
                                  1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                    @mastertdi That's life.

                                    Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:29:34 UTC from web
                                    1. orungano orungano

                                      @northernnarwhal Part of me wants to understand what you said but most of me doesn't think I can handle it

                                      Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:30:08 UTC from web
                                      1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                        @mastertdi TL;DR version rainbowdash.net/notice/3757824

                                        Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:31:47 UTC from web
                                        1. orungano orungano

                                          @northernnarwhal I was kind of hoping for an example of what else 2+2 could be but maybe that's missing the point

                                          Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:32:21 UTC from web
                                          1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                            @mastertdi Not to sound snobbish but that is missing the point entirely.

                                            Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:33:20 UTC from web
                                            1. orungano orungano

                                              @northernnarwhal classic me

                                              Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:33:35 UTC from web
                                              1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                                @mastertdi The problem is you're looking at it mathematically whereas the latter portion of my rant is giving examples of the epistemological difficulties of knowing 2+2=4. http://rainbowdash.net/notice/3757788

                                                Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:37:29 UTC from web
                                                1. orungano orungano

                                                  @northernnarwhal hm

                                                  Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:38:55 UTC from web
                                                  1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                                    @mastertdi I'm bad at this, sorry.

                                                    Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:40:39 UTC from web
                                                    1. mrdee mrdee

                                                      @northernnarwhal and this is why no one can call this site dum

                                                      Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:41:18 UTC from web
                                                      1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                                        @dawson This site is dum. http://rainbowdash.net/attachment/813794

                                                        Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:44:23 UTC from web
                                                    2. orungano orungano

                                                      @northernnarwhal It's not your fault man. I'm bad at math whether it's math or not (if this is still missing the point then I'm being ironic)

                                                      Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:42:20 UTC from web
                                                      1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                                        @mastertdi Basically I'm saying the problem with knowing whether 2+2=4 is not a mathematical one but a philosophical one.

                                                        Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:43:35 UTC from web
                                                        1. orungano orungano

                                                          @northernnarwhal Let's both agree that this is just beyond me

                                                          Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:46:53 UTC from web
                                                          1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                                            @mastertdi I don't think so. You're a smart guy.

                                                            Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:47:25 UTC from web
                                                            1. orungano orungano

                                                              @northernnarwhal lol

                                                              Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:48:11 UTC from web
                                                        2. mrdee mrdee

                                                          @northernnarwhal you know,you could have made that a little bit...smaller

                                                          Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:47:44 UTC from web
                                                          1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                                            @dawson You asked me to proceed and I did exactly that.

                                                            Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:48:59 UTC from web
                                                            1. mrdee mrdee

                                                              @northernnarwhal oh...good point..in that case,good job

                                                              Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:49:36 UTC from web
                          2. Narwhal Narwhal

                            @dawson So basically my point is there are different ways of approaching the idea of knowledge. Do I know that 2+2=4? Maybe. At the end of the day it's up for us as people to decide our philosophies on such concepts based on how we understand them.

                            Sunday, 14-Dec-14 02:27:08 UTC from web