1. remember ECH

    Thursday, 08-Dec-16 21:54:40 UTC from web
    1. @tiffany Remember flaxxx

      Thursday, 08-Dec-16 21:54:51 UTC from web
      1. @nerthos He's Fla20 now

        Thursday, 08-Dec-16 21:55:40 UTC from web
        1. @tiffany I meant the time Gherkin made a flaxx copy account. Then again, ECH was mostly you, me, flaxx, gherkin and sometimes cerulean.

          Thursday, 08-Dec-16 21:56:36 UTC from web
          1. @nerthos The Kings

            Thursday, 08-Dec-16 21:57:11 UTC from web
            1. @tiffany Coffehouse Snakes rule

              Thursday, 08-Dec-16 21:59:25 UTC from web
          2. @nerthos I made what now?

            Thursday, 08-Dec-16 21:59:43 UTC from web
            1. @thelastgherkin Back in ECH when you made an account with a mirrored avatar of flaxx's and named it "flaxxx" and pretended to be the real one for lulz.

              Thursday, 08-Dec-16 22:01:29 UTC from web
              1. @nerthos I have literally no memory of that.

                Thursday, 08-Dec-16 22:02:31 UTC from web
                1. @thelastgherkin I do because for some reason I remember all these inconsequential things that made me laugh. I think I have some screenshot around but not sure where.

                  Thursday, 08-Dec-16 22:03:51 UTC from web
                  1. @nerthos I also have literally no memory of that.

                    Monday, 12-Dec-16 18:34:08 UTC from web
                    1. @flaxx

                      Monday, 12-Dec-16 19:54:36 UTC from web
                      1. @nerthos I do sorta remember that now. Wow, can't believe it's only been three hours, feels more like three years, at least.

                        Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:06:29 UTC from web
                        1. @flaxx RDN remembers. How are you doing anyway?

                          Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:09:36 UTC from web
                          1. @nerthos Pretty good! Just trying to figure out how to animate things along motion paths in Maya because I have no idea how Maya works. How about yourself?

                            Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:13:12 UTC from web
                            1. @flaxx Doing fine. Got up just an hour ago and heating water for a mate cocido (it's like tea). Haven't heard anyone mention Maya in years, but I do remember it from early 2000s magazines talking about 3D rendering

                              Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:14:56 UTC from web
                              1. @nerthos It's basically the industry standard for game development. Maya for 3D and Photoshop for 2D. So that's pretty gross. But it works, I suppose.

                                Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:17:30 UTC from web
                                1. @flaxx Going for a career in videogame development then?

                                  Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:20:53 UTC from web
                                  1. @nerthos One can dare dream. Aiming for doing 3d modeling but we'll see how well that goes.

                                    Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:26:04 UTC from web
                                    1. @flaxx Well, everything is a door if you work on it. Practice, make a portfolio, and when you see some studio hiring just send them a link to your work. It's not uncommon to see small-to-medium size studios posting ads for hiring on social media, if you stick to the circles where that's relevant.

                                      Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:30:07 UTC from web
                                      1. @nerthos Yup. Went to the Sweden Game Conference a month or so ago which was nice and hopefully I'll be able to contact someone there for some sort of internship in a year or two. If all else fails, my 3D buddies and I will just have to befriend some programmers and make early access crafting survival games with a microtransaction store. Gonna be beautiful.

                                        Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:33:32 UTC from web
                                        1. @flaxx Just remember the golden rule about early access: disappear and erase your traces once you've made enough money and never finish.

                                          Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:34:58 UTC from web
                                          1. @nerthos Duh. Just gotta save up some money to make a fancy trailer and go find people on reddit to help greenlight it on Steam.

                                            Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:36:41 UTC from web
                                            1. @flaxx Bonus points if you fund it through kickstarter or patreon.

                                              Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:37:07 UTC from web
                                              1. @nerthos And a quick gofundme because our best programmer is stuck in Tibet with no internet and we need a few thousand bucks to get him back here so we can get started o- I mean finish the game.

                                                Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:39:53 UTC from web
                                                1. @flaxx If all else fails you can claim you got cancer while developing and that's why updates don't come out, and beg for more money.

                                                  Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:49:31 UTC from web
                                                  1. @nerthos Cancer saves the day yet again.

                                                    Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:50:53 UTC from web
                                                  2. @nerthos @flaxx As an aside, I really adore how I can be more productive than many of these e-beggars when I have a chronic terminal illness that was supposed to kill me 15 years ago and make a mere fraction of what they do.  The power of that emotional appeal when you have anything resembling a platform is monumental.  Emotional blackmail.

                                                    Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:53:34 UTC from
                                                    1. @maiyannah It's the reason I'm absolutely insensitive most of the time. Emotional extortion is the current fad so I went to the other extreme. My father often gets upset because of it as I don't seem to care about extended family and the like.

                                                      Monday, 12-Dec-16 21:22:21 UTC from web
                                                      1. @nerthos Compassion is a precious thing.  I don't waste it on those whom haven't invested in me.

                                                        Monday, 12-Dec-16 21:32:31 UTC from
                                        2. @flaxx Jokes aside you can always work on modelling for any other bussiness until you get the job you want, as in a curriculum experience is experience regardless of where you do the job.

                                          Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:36:07 UTC from web
                                          1. @nerthos Yeah, best case scenario I have an internship before I even finish uni. Doubt that'll happen and if it doesn't, I'll find something else to do while I practice more. Just need a nice portfolio and to be able to work in a team and I'm golden. I think I have the latter down mostly kind of maybe.

                                            Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:38:54 UTC from web
                                            1. @flaxx Well that's worth something. Having a team you can work with decently is half the way there.

                                              Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:50:16 UTC from web
                                              1. @nerthos They often say you need to have 2 out of 3 qualities. 1. Be professional (get stuff done before deadlines. 2. Be fun and easy to work with. 3. Be really bloody skilled in whatever it is you'll be doing. Pick two of those and you'll be fine.

                                                Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:53:11 UTC from web
                                          2. @nerthos @flaxx Its not as "fun" as game development, but there is GOOD money and more importantly a lot of jobs (here at least) right now in architectural modelling.

                                            Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:40:29 UTC from
                                            1. @maiyannah @flaxx This. Forgot about it, but it's actually a really good job. Architects, surveyors, and other related professionals tend to hire people to do all the CAD and modelling since it's the most time intensive part of the job and by extension the bottleneck in getting more jobs a month and thus more money.

                                              Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:42:43 UTC from web
                                              1. @nerthos @flaxx Most money I ever made on a contract when I was freelancing my various skills after 'retiring' due to my injury from the police, was with a local home-building firm.  (Almost 40k for a month of work).  And they're not even the top of that totem pole.

                                                Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:45:20 UTC from
                                              2. @nerthos Not sure if I should be able to see some posts that I don't, but architectural stuff could work too. CAD is what got me into 3D modeling to begin with, though I quickly realized I wanted to do something more creative than putting holes for screws and stuff in machine parts. Also wanted to make games because games are pretty great. But yeah, once I'm done with uni I'll take what I can get. If that's not making games, fine, I'll just practice until I get good enough.

                                                Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:50:19 UTC from web
                                                1. @flaxx Oh, yeah, maiya's account is on another instance. You won't see her on public unless you're subscribed, but you should be able to see all of it from context. I agree that CAD is really boring, but it's a decent enough job for making money and practice. You can show architectural models to a studio to apply for a scenario modelling position and work your way from there.

                                                  Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:54:13 UTC from web
                                                  1. @nerthos Way I see it is if I have to have a boring job for like 5 years after I graduate and then get to do things I actually enjoy (I know game development isn't all sunshine and rainbows, but still), it sounds worth it to me.

                                                    Monday, 12-Dec-16 20:57:18 UTC from web
                                                    1. @flaxx The first few years are always annoying, but they're important for getting a degree of economical independence so you don't have to worry about what'll happen if you don't get work for a month or two and can be a bit more picky with jobs.

                                                      Monday, 12-Dec-16 21:35:25 UTC from web