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  1. Really the only reason to begrudge protesters is when they turn it into an excuse for destruction and rioting.

    Friday, 09-Dec-16 15:46:10 UTC from web
    1. @awl I think that's a function of crowd dynamics. Sports fans do it when their team /wins/

      Friday, 09-Dec-16 15:51:22 UTC from web
      1. @ceruleanspark @awl Let's just ban crowds

        Friday, 09-Dec-16 15:51:53 UTC from web
      2. @ceruleanspark nature or not it's not an excuse. Otherwise what is society made for.

        Friday, 09-Dec-16 16:02:07 UTC from web
        1. @awl Crumbling regularly, mostly

          Friday, 09-Dec-16 16:03:32 UTC from web
          1. @nerthos eh i think of that as a causal effect

            Friday, 09-Dec-16 16:04:34 UTC from web
            1. @awl In reality society is made as an attempt to turn humanity into a cohesive force, but after a while it always starts to break because someone with less than pure intentions gets in a position of influence and starts benefiting or representing only a sector of society, so the rest turns hostile.

              Friday, 09-Dec-16 16:07:16 UTC from web
        2. @awl A mechanism for mitigating the dissonance bought on by self awareness and increasing reproductive potential in an increasingly hostile survival environment.

          Friday, 09-Dec-16 16:05:44 UTC from web
          1. @ceruleanspark so protection to any effect against our baser instincts is not part of this?

            Friday, 09-Dec-16 16:06:51 UTC from web
            1. @awl It's part of the root cause of the dissonance: Man is claims to be civilized but maintaining that civilisation is also its main energy expenditure.

              Friday, 09-Dec-16 16:10:53 UTC from web
              1. @ceruleanspark ah, I got it. Herein is why I believe that us acting on our base instincts to the point of unwonted destruction should be frowned upon, not excused simply for being our instincts. Yes it is part of the understanding as to why we are the way we are but if we're building ourselves up to be better than other animals, simply for our being self-aware, then we can walk the walk.

                Friday, 09-Dec-16 16:14:03 UTC from web