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@hakui That you're too hot or the guy too weak
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@hakui @nerthos
> roommate finished early
> and returned the pen
H-Hakui, please throw it out! https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/282335 -
@hakui B-but hakui senpai... http://rainbowdash.net/attachment/856226
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@tijagi In this context, that sounds bad...
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@hakui @nerthos Yes, along with those nibs and melamine sponges. I didn’t show it off, because my first kanji instantly shown me, that I can’t draw it.
Maybe I will try it now…
…A-and, after two hours and three sheets I present you my best 中. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/282436 -
@nerthos I-I would never… ⋅ ’ ° ( /// △\\\)
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@nerthos @hakui That vertical stroke is the real challenge. Not only must it be straight, it also has this pommel, drawing which requires a trick, which may easily mess your hand height, which will turn out in the stroke having uneven width later; it also must end with the left side of the stroke thinner than the right one. This all makes four(!) moves in two.
And beside of that, drawing with brush kills your neck twice as faster, because you hold the brush vertically and must see what are you drawing at the same time. My forehead was covered in sweat by the end of these two hours. Japanese calligraphy is for really hard-working people.
On a side note, some sensei on youtube said, that one must consume a spirit and convey its energy in one’s work. I thought of hot potatoes. https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/218650 -
@tijagi It's pretty, but terribly impractical. It's for people who want to dedicate hours each day just to practicing those drawings.
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@nerthos > It's pretty, but terribly impractical
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@tijagi There's decent caligraphy that can be done relatively fast and has an use. Like the caligraphy practice I had for technical drawing, that gets you used to drawing standarized print letters with ease, making mistakes when reading a blueprint impossible.
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@nerthos
> Like the caligraphy practice I had for technical drawing
https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/282895
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@tijagi What's that face supposed to mean
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@tijagi Oh. Had three years of caligraphy for it. Pages and pages of letters and numbers to get used to the font used for blueprints. In the long run it made my handwriting less awful.
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@nerthos 「wut」
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@nerthos You mean this script or what? https://gs.smuglo.li/attachment/282912
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@nerthos
> calligraphy
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> 1. The art or practice of writing letters and words in a decorative style; the letters and words so written. -
@nerthos I mean I wasn’t joking when I said that being impractical is the definition of calligraphy. It is complicated for the beauty of it.
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@tijagi "La caligrafía (del griego καλλιγραφία [kaligrafía]) es el arte de escribir con letra bella, artística y correctamente formada, siguiendo diferentes estilos; pero también puede entenderse como el conjunto de rasgos que caracterizan la escritura de una persona o de un documento."
"[...]It's the art of writting with pretty, artistic and correctly formed letters, following different styles; but also can be understood as the collective of traits that characterize the writing of a person or document"
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@nerthos
> but also can be understood as the collective of traits that characterize the writing of a person or document
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@nerthos Well, in Spanish (or whatever that was) calligraphy may mean also handwriting, but in the languages that follow the original meaning of the word, it doesn’t.
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@tijagi Well, it just depends on what you consider "artistic and pretty". It's not less valid to consider standarized fonts that than it is to say the same about fancy kanji, as beauty and art are subjective. As long as you're striving towards adhering to a perfected, stylized font, you're doing caligraphy.
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@nerthos I don’t deny, that a script for blueprints has its own beauty, but it wasn’t created to embellish something or be beautiful in the first place. Just to be readable well. Hence can only be related to calligraphy with its well-aligned forms thanks to the modern tools. There was Roman cursive script for example, which was a simplification of the famous Square capitals script, like this modern standardised one, only with a difference of ~2k years. Roman cursive was a utility script, too, and is not considered calligraphic. But some forms of much later uncial script are derived from it, and uncial is a calligraphic script. And in parallel to Roman cursive and Roman square capitals there was Rustic script, written with a stylo, like the former. Rustic was used exclusively in books, its forms are different from the other two and it is a purely calligraphic script. On the left picture: Roman square capitals script on Trajan’s …
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