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Apparently Microsoft is going to stop supporting MSN in favour for Skype. At least, that's what rumours say. Microsoft, if you do this, that means I will not use ANY of your messenger services anymore because I absolutely refuse to use Skype. If this is what you want, fine, I have XMPP (think: Jabber, Google Talk, possibly Facebook Chat, etc.).
Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:26:17 UTC from web-
@omni Actually, scratch that, Microsoft confirmed it: http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/6/3609924/microsoft-messenger-retirement-skype
Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:28:13 UTC from web -
@omni It kinda sucks that Skype is in the ownership (both past and present) it is, because on a technical level, it's actually really great. I just wish I didn't have a reason to feel so uncomfortable about still using it.
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@bitshift Skype is one of the worst programs I've used on Linux, actually. It was constantly broken and it completely refuses to integrate like other software like Pidgin. I just wish the Skype protocol would be open, so I could use it in Pidgin, but I don't see that happening. Hopefully Google and Facebook will help making XMPP more popular, so that we can say goodbye to the mess of dependencies we have when we want to.
Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:30:51 UTC from web-
@omni @widget It's actually got a lot better, very recently, to the point I actually prefer it over the Windows version.
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@bitshift I still don't trust that software on my system, though. I'm not installing it again. I'm freeing myself from these dependencies, and I have no wish to use Skype again, add people on it again and get dependent on it again.
Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:35:12 UTC from web-
@omni And that's fair, and I wouldn't ask you to. I'm just explaining why I still use it, despite my misgivings.
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Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:44:06 UTC from web
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@omni It's no problem; it didn't even seem like an attack to me, so don't worry yourself over it. :)
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Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:34:15 UTC from web
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@widget I thought Linux Skype was at 4.x or something.
Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:37:32 UTC from web -
@widget I don't know if it's 5 exactly, since I'm not at my computer to check, but yeah, it's definitely not 2 dot anything any more.
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@widget I've gone long enough without Skype to not need it anymore so, albeit the option being nice, I'd rather not :P
Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:39:49 UTC from web -
@widget A few seconds worth of research says it's at 4.0.
Tuesday, 06-Nov-12 18:40:11 UTC from web -
@widget The package on their site (they have them for Fedora, Debian 6, and an Ubuntu version that I don't recall, but the package certainly still works on Precise) adds its own repository as part of the post-install process, as far as I recall.
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@widget There's also plain dynamic/static builds for use on distros they don't officially package for, but since those aren't in packages, I imagine the update process for those is rather more manual.
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