Replies to nan, page 16
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@jamster You are making the mistake of assuming that I, a technician who actually works on those things for money, haven't used 1080p monitors simply because I've decided on a screen of another definition. You are mistaken. You have also misread me, I never said the difference can't be told, what I said is that it is not a necessity. You don't need a surgical laser cutter when you only need to cut a steak. Sure, it might be cool to show to your friends how you can slice a perfect circle on that pork rib, but will the precision cutting actually affect the taste once you put it in your mouth?
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@jamster My secondary is 1080p and I can't tell a difference between it and 720p if I'm actually ingame. If I'm on my desktop, I can tell, but that's because everything's really small.
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@jamster Well, that's because 1080p is a 16:9 definition and i don't like those. Someone offered me a 19" 5:4 screen for good money and I said "sure" since I don't actually need more definition if I'm going to sit half a meter away from it.
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@jamster And after spending god knows how much money on all of that is the minute difference really worth it?
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@jamster Games for consoles have the advantage of being tailored specifically to the hardware limitations and architecture of a standarized platform though, so they eventually manage to get all the juice out of a given fruit.
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@jamster From 1080? *checks chart* Hmmm, It appears I was too sure in my assumptions to question whether I checked my own set up.
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@northernnarwhal I would also like to acknowledge Jamster for making a swell point about the differences in FPS. And, he did show me what a multi-monitor display was. That was a bit mind opening. @jamster
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@jamster Make no mistake, I'm a supporter of PC gaming, I just think the cost/payoff curve breaks at a certain point.
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@jamster That's literally the point I've been trying to make this entire time, it all comes down to player preference.
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@jamster Microsoft themselves have explicitly said there are no technical limitations ruling out 4K
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@jamster Um, you can't tell the difference, the eye does have a limit to what its "Definition" is. It can't tell the difference from 4K and some lower definitions from afar, hell, even 480p is even in the far category with 4K. As you move closer, you eliminate some definitions when you are able to tell the difference, but 4K is only really useful for when you are up close.
I am going to give you a video with a time stamp from Vsauce, it has a chart and the video does explain this idea. But, the whole video is also a good listen. It lists the sources in the description if you want to check them your self.http://youtu.be/4I5Q3UXkGd0?t=1m27s -
@jamster If you're going to use a projector it is assumed you won't stand in front of the image
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@jamster Oh god that motion blur
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@jamster I've used projectors before and in a room with proper light conditions you get pretty vibrant colours.
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@jamster How many fps you can get above 30 is irrelevant except in games where the developers made a mistake when coding things like cooldowns or animations and made them dependant on frames elapsed instead of a proper time.
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@jamster With that comment, you've rendered your whole argument moot in my eyes. An old, proven technology is oftentimes better than a new, fancy and not yet perfected one.
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@jamster Refer back to what Matt said about 4K and what I said about noticing the difference.
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@jamster It's cheaper to paint a wall white and use a projector
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@jamster Alright, your screen is now roughly the size of an average television but with obnoxious black lines through it.
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@jamster In all honesty, software > hardware any day. You can be playing your games on HAL 9000 for all I care but all that's irrelevant if the games themselves aren't even good.
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@jamster Yes they can, havent seen one either, 4K is totally doable on the Xbox One, etc etc.
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@jamster Sure they can, I was playing on my friend's PS4 just the other day. My friends and I get a multi-television setup all the time when we have our Halo nights, it's great. Admittedly I haven't seen 4K but you said 1080p (and in all honestly unless you're playing something like Crysis you'd have to be looking really bloody hard to tell the difference). Valve doesn't even make games anymore, they just sell them. Also, the controller thing is still subjective. I've always preferred controllers because they're designed to fit your hand comfortably. Paying for perks isn't a big deal when you aren't paying that much, and that's really only if you plan on actively playing online.
