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  1. cabal cabal

    The Cabal has arrived.

    Monday, 04-Apr-11 23:23:56 UTC from web
    1. Pony Pony

      @c interesting.

      Friday, 11-Jul-14 12:41:16 UTC from web
    2. Pony Pony

      @c It would make sense why EMDR therapy works well to treat depression.

      Friday, 11-Jul-14 12:46:25 UTC from web
      1. Cloud Kicker Cloud Kicker

        @pony Trauma is a form of depression ?

        Friday, 11-Jul-14 12:47:20 UTC from web
        1. Pony Pony

          @critialcloudkicker @critialcloudkicker I can't really say, but it still works as treatment in some cases apparently I've been told by a licensed professional.

          What I do know is that trauma need not be caused by any one or two serious events. It can be caused by more subtle repetitive negative experience like verbal abuse over years. As such, trauma can take on a form similar to depression in that an individual might feel hopeless, without any real escape, inadequate to handle their dilemma, etc. That article mentioned problem solving, and EMDR is always coupled with a guided problem solving-type of cognitive processing with a professional.

          Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:00:45 UTC from web
          1. Cloud Kicker Cloud Kicker

            @pony ... I prefer bodily trauma, it heals faster. Also I do not know enough about psychological trauma's to make any form of comment or statement.

            Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:02:52 UTC from web
            1. Pony Pony

              @critialcloudkicker As long as the bodily trauma isn't accompanied by any mental trauma it may heal faster, maybe, but it depends on how resilient a mind is.

              Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:05:08 UTC from web
              1. Narwhal Narwhal

                @pony I think a major difference is that if you break an arm once it heals it's not gonna be coming back to bother you 5-10 years down the road.

                Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:06:47 UTC from web
                1. Pony Pony

                  @northernnarwhal There are plenty of physical injuries that will haunt you though, just like there are many psychological challenges that will never return.

                  Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:07:42 UTC from web
                  1. Narwhal Narwhal

                    @pony The point is that once a physical injury heals you don't have to deal with it anymore.

                    Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:11:48 UTC from web
                    1. Cloud Kicker Cloud Kicker

                      @northernnarwhal ... Well, once your liver, kidneys, or panchreas get to go, you would really have to live with constant hospital visits

                      Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:17:55 UTC from web
                      1. Narwhal Narwhal

                        @critialcloudkicker That's not a case of the injury healing though.

                        Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:18:46 UTC from web
                    2. Pony Pony

                      @northernnarwhal there's paralysis as an extreme example of what I'm talking about physically, and emotionally, finding a pet bird eaten by a cat, is a mild trauma that people generally can move past without lingering issues.

                      Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:20:10 UTC from web
                      1. Narwhal Narwhal

                        @pony Which also isn't a case of the injury healing

                        Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:21:16 UTC from web
                        1. Pony Pony

                          If you want to define "healing" as completely healing, then you could argue that psychological trauma healing isn't really healing either if there are still issues down the road.

                          Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions about what you mean to say.

                          Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:24:24 UTC from web
                          1. Narwhal Narwhal

                            @pony The point is that it's hard to tell if people ever completely heal from psychological trauma, but you know if someone's completely healed from physical trauma.

                            Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:25:54 UTC from web
                            1. Pony Pony

                              @northernnarwhal I gotcha. That's true enough.

                              Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:26:17 UTC from web
                              1. Narwhal Narwhal

                                @pony I think the other thing is if I had to experience really severe physical trauma or really severe psychological trauma I'd honestly probably go with the physical trauma.

                                Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:29:20 UTC from web
              2. Cloud Kicker Cloud Kicker

                @pony I'd recon it depends way more on the injured body part(s) . 10+ stab wounds to the legs are harder to heal than 10+ stab wounds to the guts, argueably. Since you would need to learn to walk again ( which takes practice ) versus your body trying to work ( and thus takes no "actual" time on your part appart from lying there; trying not to get bored out of your mind

                Friday, 11-Jul-14 14:08:16 UTC from web