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  1. Pony Pony

    @ceruleanspark @hakupony @toksyuryel Without something to somehow stabilize randomness, how can patterns exist for our minds to recognize? It feels like we're in a conversational quagmire.

    Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:27:50 UTC from web
    1. The white void The white void

      @pony This is the reason why I can't deny time. Changes take time so they last long enough for us to learn about them and use the patters that exist now to control our enviroment.

      Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:29:16 UTC from web
      1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

        @hakupony I tried to deny time once. I ended up proving it to myself instead.

        Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:31:00 UTC from web
        1. The white void The white void

          @toksyuryel Same with me :)

          Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:31:29 UTC from web
        2. Techdisk Techdisk

          @toksyuryel "lets see how long it takes me to disprove time. Damnit."

          Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:35:34 UTC from web
          1. The white void The white void

            @techdisk42 If "how long" is just a modus of our judgement, I did not fail with that :)

            Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:36:30 UTC from web
            1. Techdisk Techdisk

              @hakupony bah technicalities.

              Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:37:48 UTC from web
          2. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

            @techdisk42 My concept was to perceive the fourth dimension as a linear sequence of unmoving "states" each subtly different from the last. Movement through this dimension would thus create the illusion of time in the same way a film reel creates the illusion of a motion picture. But that's not an illusion at all. That's just time.

            Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:38:41 UTC from web
            1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

              @toksyuryel Movement as a sequence of pictures instead of a film. Heh, we share this view.

              Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:39:43 UTC from web
              1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

                @nerthos There's actually a name for the length of time which specifies exactly one state. "Planck Time". This is the shortest possible physical length of time, it cannot be subdivided any smaller.

                Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:42:19 UTC from web
                1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

                  @toksyuryel The question is, how to modify the bonds between these "plank time" samples, to change the flow of time.

                  Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:45:56 UTC from web
                  1. The white void The white void

                    @nerthos The subjective flow of time - one of the things even I get confused about...

                    Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:47:16 UTC from web
                    1. derpyshy / chem derpyshy / chem

                      @hakupony 9_6

                      Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:48:24 UTC from MuSTArDroid
                    2. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

                      @hakupony Possibly because we're not born with-or we don't develop- the capability to modify these bonds, we are limited in perception to this view of it's flow. Yet due to the infinite nature of possibilities, we could train our perceptions to understand this flow.

                      Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:48:55 UTC from web
                  2. derpyshy / chem derpyshy / chem

                    @nerthos Screw this, I'm calling The Doctor...

                    Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:48:06 UTC from MuSTArDroid
                    1. The white void The white void

                      @derpyshy Time travel is one of those things that mangae to make things even weirder as philosophy manages to - this is why I like it.

                      Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:50:36 UTC from web
                      1. derpyshy / chem derpyshy / chem

                        @hakupony That's why I like bowties ^3^

                        Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:52:15 UTC from MuSTArDroid
                    2. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

                      @derpyshy Let the doctor come. Maybe from him I could learn something.

                      Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:51:31 UTC from web
                      1. derpyshy / chem derpyshy / chem

                        @nerthos But you'd get a pain in your forehead, though :/

                        Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:54:28 UTC from MuSTArDroid
                        1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

                          @derpyshy It doesn't matter. It's not the first time I pay knowledge with pain, and it won't be the last.

                          Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:58:26 UTC from web
                          1. derpyshy / chem derpyshy / chem

                            @nerthos Ok ^_\

                            Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:59:03 UTC from MuSTArDroid
            2. Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark

              @toksyuryel You don't look anything like Mikuru

              Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:39:59 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
              1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

                @ceruleanspark If he looked like Mikuru, me and the Carcino gang would be always behind.

                Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:41:23 UTC from web
            3. The white void The white void

              @toksyuryel "Illusion of Tme"... I loved that game. The problem with your picture i that you still have time as the 4th dimension.

              Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:41:09 UTC from web
              1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

                @hakupony Well, I had started by trying to show that time *wasn't* the fourth dimension. Turns out that no, it really IS the fourth dimension.

                Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:43:09 UTC from web
    2. Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark

      @pony Patterns do not exist. We just /see/ patterns because it makes things easier for us to comprehend. If I built a machine that produced an infinite random sequence of musical notes, I would, at some point between now and infinity, find every piece of music ever written contained within its output. That doesn't make my machine not-random, it just means that all things are contained within infinity.

      Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:30:33 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
    3. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @pony They only exist because the mind exists inside that randomness. Since our minds only last a minimum amount of time, new minds are created when this randomness changes, to fit to it.

      Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:31:19 UTC from web
    4. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

      @pony The exist because they can. Because it is infinite.

      Thursday, 14-Jun-12 10:31:33 UTC from web