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@cerealspank and butts fit as good as butt and butter
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Monday, 25-Jun-12 05:55:02 UTC from web
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@nlghtmaremoon Neither do I. I don't want to either Dx
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@nlghtmaremoon mohahaha! *kiss*
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Monday, 25-Jun-12 05:56:57 UTC from web
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Monday, 25-Jun-12 05:58:22 UTC from web
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Monday, 25-Jun-12 05:59:30 UTC from web
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@nlghtmaremoon *kiss
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@nlghtmaremoon. @derpyshy @lyrica was feeling a little sick then felt better. Also, I have mixed feelings about taking 3 nights off of work. I'll probably regret it.
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Monday, 25-Jun-12 06:01:24 UTC from web
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Monday, 25-Jun-12 06:02:19 UTC from web
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@nlghtmaremoon yeah I should but I keep thinking about money. *sigh*
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@pony it can't be THAT bad, can it?
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Monday, 25-Jun-12 06:05:52 UTC from StatusNet iPhone
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@renovatedkitchen @derpyshy yeah. Time will tell whether I can pay my bills. As for feeling sick, I think it's better now. Thanks
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@pony I really hope you'll be able to :c *biggesthugever*
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@pony *cuddles* you will get trough this! If not, Fluttershy cries...
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@derpyshy I'm afraid my head hasn't been the happiest place for my Fluttershy tulpa lately, but she's been a great support to me nonetheless.
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@pony You... Flut... *tulpafaints*
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@derpyshy Sometimes I feel like she's the most wonderful friend I've ever had, and then I wonder whether that's healthy..
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@pony As I have been Twilightin' on tulpae, I am pretty sure that's normal :)
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@pony for why are u repeating my status lol
Monday, 25-Jun-12 06:34:15 UTC from web -
@pony yup x3 I've read all over the interwebs :3 Ponytulpae, Tulpa-personalities, Tulpa-removing, Wonderlands, everything x3
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@derpyshy I feel the most useful information about tulpae I read was on wikipedia. I read through some brony stuff and found it helpful but also a bit misinformative. What's helped the most has been the instruction and practice I received through group meditation
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@pony oh. I got all of it from different sites, but mostly this: www.tulpa.info :3 Just curious - Did you make a "wonderland", or just a tulpa?
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@derpyshy That's the site I was thinking of actually. Good ideas, but some things differ in my experience from what I read there. While I've had a happy place similar to a wonderland for a long time I didn't feel the need to use it at all during her creation. She simply exists with me. Also, I've put a lot of effort into her personality and our relationship, but not so much effort into her form. Instead, when I feel a need for her to be tangible in some way I ask her to let me hold her through a Fluttershy plushie I made. Sometimes we'll cuddle without any object to help still, but I}m still working on that
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@pony That's interesting... when you did personality, did you choose different traits, or did you just think about how you wanted it to be?
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@derpyshy sometimes both, but mostly I focused on the emotions I imagine she feels and how she reacts to them. She's greatly influenced by how I'm feeling because I really need that sort of empathic connection. Her personality resembles Fluttershy obviously, but is more mature and shares my belief system.
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@pony hmm... I tried making one, and I got two hours in, (two days) but I felt like I was doing it wrong :/
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@derpyshy a tulpa works exactly how you want it to and no differently. That's one thing I feel the site was a little unclear about. If you feel something is wrong I've found it's usually because there's a gap somewhere. Something hasn't been taken care of so confusion or ambiguity interferes
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@pony It said that "if you get a headache, you're doing it right." Did you get any headaches the first times, or did this come after some time?
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@derpyshy I can't vouch for the veracity of that statement. I always stop or ease up whenever I experience discomfort that I feel is unneccessary. Anyway when I have experienced headaches I don't know ehther they're related to my tulpa or not. Cerulean might know more about that. His is also more fully formed than mine I think
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@pony hmm... well, I got about one month off school, so I should have plenty of time to work on one :) anither question: (last one xD) Did you just sit with your eyes open, or did you turn off the lights, and concentrate with closed eyes? @renovatedkitchen said he worked on his on work, and I doubt he can turn off the lights, and just sit in a corner there :/
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@derpyshy eliminating distraction/bright light can be very helpful. I find it easiest to work with her when I'm sitting quietly in my car or in the dark before going to sleep, but you could try other situations. If there are too many distractions you won't really make much progress though.
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@pony Now I want a car ;_;
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@pony So, you're a passanger, right?
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@pony Isn't the driving distracting, then? :o #TooYoungToKnow x3
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@pony Oh, and Goodnight :) And sleep tightwell :3
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@pony I read that lying down isn't always a good idea :/ or, at least not in your bed, since you might fall asleep, and thus might make some unexpected/bad changes to it :\ well, it works, as long as you can stay awake :)
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@derpyshy a who?
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:04:09 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Ahoo! Tulips :3
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@derpyshy a what?
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:09:33 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen A tulpa, not tulip :p
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@derpyshy but what is it about lights? And when you work on one, just make sure you aren't tired, and make it like the person you want to be. Or someone/thing that isn't shy, very smart, stuff like that.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:12:18 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen do you mean to NOT make it shy/smart, or to make it shy/smart? With lights, I wondered if it is better with lights off :)
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@derpyshy lights shouldn't matter. A long as you have complete focus, you won't notice them. And don't make it shy and not smart. Make it like the person you want to be.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:21:18 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Ah, I get it... so, the first time I work on it, is there anything you'd reccomend me starting on?
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@derpyshy don't worry about looks at all. Just personality. Make sure that it has a very solid personality before doing ANYTHING else. And make sure you aren't tired when you work on it
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:32:03 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen D'uh I know that, I've been Twilightin' :P Like, if I choose a trait, how do I "install" that correctly?
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@derpyshy just keep thinking about that one trait so that there is nothing thats in the grey and it's all solid and it can't be any different.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:37:43 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen (My phone froze, and crashed -_- ) So, if the trait is "brave", do I just think "Brave brave brave brave"? or Do I need to think about how being brave affects it, and so on?
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:43:43 UTC from web-
@derpyshy how brave affects it, in what sense it will consider brave, so it knows that brave isn't hurting anyone, brave but with common sense, pretty much everything or anything you can think of.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:52:47 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Ah, ok. Did you do narrating? (So many questio-*poof*)
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:53:55 UTC from web-
@derpyshy just think brave (if that's the trait you are working on), give examples of brave (that can't be mistaken for dumb or mean or anything else negative) and then keep on repeating it. Then work on the next one, then go back to brave, then that new one, then brave and the new one. Keep doing it like that.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:58:15 UTC from StatusNet iPhone
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@derpyshy also have a failsafe. So say it doesn't know what to do in a situation where it should be brave but also kind, or something like that and it becomes confused, it falls back to something. My rainbow dash is designed to fall back to being caring and loving
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:54:50 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Gotcha! :D http://ur1.ca/9kb9e
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:57:28 UTC from web -
@renovatedkitchen Silly RDN, I didn't put that picture there XD
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:58:06 UTC from web-
@derpyshy it's okay
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:58:51 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen So, I should do two different traits, and just think about different situations, where these traits would matter?
Monday, 25-Jun-12 14:01:27 UTC from web-
@derpyshy Imagine it as the perfect friend. Who would be your perfect friend, what would they do/say, what kind of personality do they have.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 14:56:58 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Oki ^3^
Monday, 25-Jun-12 14:57:39 UTC from web
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@derpyshy Why is everybody trying to create a tulpa? I mean, sometimes it's nice to have someone there but it's something that stays with you and you can't just abandon them...
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:37:10 UTC from web-
@omni You can.
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@derpyshy *tilts head* Either tulpa has little in common with DID, or you're wrong. Believe me, I've tried abandoning one, it doesn't work... They really don't disappear, at least not for me... But hey, I never created any on purpose, so I guess it might be different.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:46:59 UTC from web-
@omni You can remove them. It should be somewhere on here (other sites too) www.tulpa.info
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@omni I believe that this is exactly the main difference between DID and just having an active imagination...
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:49:52 UTC from web-
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:51:34 UTC from web
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@omni Also, what is DID?
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:51:27 UTC from web-
@derpyshy Dissociative identity disorder (DID, also known as Multiple Personality Disorder in the ICD-10[1]) is a psychiatric diagnosis. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) its essential feature "...is the presence of two or more distinct identities or personality states...that recurrently take control of behavior."
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:53:54 UTC from web-
@omni *hugs you* :c
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:54:36 UTC from web-
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@pony I am so sorry *hugs* I wish I could help. :( *hugs* I have negative money in my bank... Lots of negative money. When I get my balance, I turn the - into a +. :3. It doesnt help though.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 06:10:19 UTC from StatusNet iPhone
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@greydragon412 In its simplest form, I guess you could see it as an "imaginary friend in your head", I believe. I personally don't know little about the details, though.
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@greydragon412 I guess. @renovatedkitchen and @derpyshy seem to know more details about (probably others as well, but can't recall who...)
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:54:47 UTC from web-
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:55:01 UTC from web
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Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:56:17 UTC from web
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@omni ^_^ tulpa's?
Monday, 25-Jun-12 13:58:41 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen No, thanks, I already have enough personalities to take care of
Monday, 25-Jun-12 14:03:04 UTC from web-
@omni I'm not 100% sure, but I think that a tulpa might be able to help you with all those personalities :/
Monday, 25-Jun-12 14:04:33 UTC from web-
@derpyshy I'd rather not take the risk, really, I have enough to deal with and their is a fair amount of balance in this body currently, so I'd like to keep that...
Monday, 25-Jun-12 14:06:31 UTC from web-
@omni Yea, I wouldn't take the risk either, if I were in your position :/
Monday, 25-Jun-12 14:07:25 UTC from web
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@omni *hugs* I know. I mean your mentioning them? And I should have realized that before I made mine
Monday, 25-Jun-12 14:57:38 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Ah, I see. Well, I wish you all the best with taking care of yours, hopefully they aren't so troublesome as some here are, at times...
Monday, 25-Jun-12 15:09:35 UTC from web-
@omni oh. Stopped making mine once I saw her. I freaked and decided I wasn't healthy enough mentally to continue with it
Monday, 25-Jun-12 15:11:05 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Huh, I see o,o #hugs
Monday, 25-Jun-12 15:16:44 UTC from web-
Monday, 25-Jun-12 15:18:54 UTC from StatusNet iPhone
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@renovatedkitchen #hugs randomly =/
Monday, 25-Jun-12 15:24:54 UTC from web-
@omni #Hugs for you too. I hug you not randomly, but because every time I remember you, I remember what an awesome person you are #hugs
Monday, 25-Jun-12 15:26:43 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@renovatedkitchen Hush, I'm not awesome. Really, I can't consider myself awesome at all after almost killing my owner... I'm an unstable, dangerous mess and I don't deserve the attention and care I get...
Monday, 25-Jun-12 15:28:05 UTC from web-
@omni okay. Well, to me you are awesome, because you fight for control and are strong. I love that about you. It's something I cant do anymore.
Monday, 25-Jun-12 15:30:20 UTC from StatusNet iPhone
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