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  1. orungano orungano

    Refusing to vaccinate your kids or take them to a medical professional should definitely be a criminal offense

    Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:18:54 UTC from web
    1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @tiffany I think it is? at the very least, in most places that I'm aware of it falls under duty to rescue, and as abandonment when it's upon a minor blood-related to the offender. You can get fines or jail for it. Where I live duty to rescue, called "abandonment of person" also extends to any situation where a person is in peril and a bystander can help without a high risk of suffering injury, but that's not the case everywhere.

      Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:23:33 UTC from web
      1. orungano orungano

        @nerthos I still see way too many cases of parents getting arrested after their kid dies of neglect

        Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:24:30 UTC from web
        1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

          @tiffany Because 1) it requires a social worker or a neighbor or family member to formally bring it to the attention of law enforcement, and 2) once the kid dies it becomes murder by neglect which is a far more serious crime and thus has priority for law enforcement and the legal system.

          Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:26:18 UTC from web
          1. orungano orungano

            @nerthos yeah i just wish there were a way to make it known beforehand

            Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:28:13 UTC from web
            1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

              @tiffany You can't really do that without implanting kids at birth with satellite tracking devices and life monitors.

              Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:29:08 UTC from web
              1. orungano orungano

                @nerthos I guess

                Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:29:30 UTC from web
                1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

                  @tiffany The closest we can reasonably get is making a checkup every six months for small children and each year for older ones mandatory by law, and if the doctor sees the kid's in poor health and after the next (shorter term as poor health is detected) check up it hasn't gotten better report it. But that brings up the issue of people mistrusting doctors as snitches which is a downside.

                  Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:31:27 UTC from web
                  1. orungano orungano

                    @nerthos Well that shouldn't be an issue if you're actually being a decent parent right

                    Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:33:49 UTC from web
                    1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

                      @tiffany It shouldn't, but people instinctively dislike anyone they know will "sell them out". Specially as doctors are understood to keep doctor-patient secrecy except in cases they need to get an specialist involved.

                      Sunday, 22-Jan-17 14:35:16 UTC from web