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  1. RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space) RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space)

    I'm going to go build a house where every room is a pentagon and the roof is upside-down. And you knock on the front door and it just collapses inwards and I yell at you for breaking my door.

    Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:41:43 UTC from web
    1. Omni Omni

      @redenchilada Reminds me of this, for some reason: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sky.png

      Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:43:20 UTC from web
    2. Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark

      @redenchilada Is this a metaphor for open source software.

      Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:51:10 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
      1. RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space) RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space)

        @ceruleanspark The place I stole the analogy from used it to describe PHP, but yeah it works for that too

        Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:52:10 UTC from web
        1. Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark

          @redenchilada The problem a lot of PHP critics have is that they frequently undermine their own entirely valid points by being unable to distinguish criticism of the language from criticism of its users.

          Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:54:01 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
          1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

            @ceruleanspark In which category would you say Eevee's article falls?

            Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:55:06 UTC from web
            1. Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark

              @toksyuryel I'm at work, and you rather helpfully tagged the article as NSFW, so I didn't click it. If it's in the vein of the oft repeated "PHP is bad because outsourced indian programmers working from "how to learn PHP in 24 hours" books based on PHP3 write awful things in it" then it falls into the latter.

              Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:57:41 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
              1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

                @ceruleanspark I meant the PHP article, not the COBOL article I linked earlier today.

                Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:58:40 UTC from web
                1. Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark

                  @toksyuryel The "Fractal of bad design" thing? That seems like a fairly robust criticism of the language itself. There's no "People do bad things with php ergo it is bad" there. Or if there is, it's not the point he's chosen to hang his critique off of.

                  Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 13:02:44 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
              2. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

                @ceruleanspark I am pretty sure you already read it the first time I linked it, but here it is again for you to peruse after work http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ #

                Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 13:01:44 UTC from web
          2. RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space) RedEnchilada (notice the lack of a space)

            @ceruleanspark shrug I don't know near enough to have a stance on the matter.

            Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:55:33 UTC from web
          3. Toothpaste Pony! Toothpaste Pony!

            @ceruleanspark PHP is horribly coded though. The main thing that drives me nuts is the functions though. They don't follow ANY sort of naming/argument convention. You literally have to have a book in front of you while coding PHP because there's no way you'll ever successfully guess the functions you need and their arguments ...

            Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:57:02 UTC from web
            1. Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark Cerulean Lulamoon-Spark

              @minti I'm not disputing that PHP is bad. I'm disputing that "PHP is bad because a lot of terrible coders use it" is a valid criticism of the language.

              Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:58:25 UTC from StatusNet Desktop
              1. Toothpaste Pony! Toothpaste Pony!

                @ceruleanspark I know, I just felt compelled by the current discussion to throw in my own two cents. :p

                Tuesday, 02-Oct-12 12:59:04 UTC from web