Replies to danielmikaelson
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@danielmikaelson It is never evil to be something - it only can be evil to do something. If you act on that sexual orientation, you will most likely cause suffering which is bad. I do not care about what is natural since we do not life in nature but in culture - a humanmade enviroment. If "unnatural" behaviour is bad, then don't forget that religion is not natural but cultural. I understand we never will agree- I disapprove of most things of orthodox christianity and based on your facebook account, we would very likely to beat each other up for political standoints as well - so let's agree we disagree.
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@greydragon412 #latereply I honestly wasn't following the conversation all that closely, but it didn't seem like @danielmikaelson was forcing his beliefs on anypony.
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@danielmikaelson for the record, we understand you.
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@danielmikaelson It's not a misunderstanding based on language. In my case, I was raised in a completely areligious environment, so I'm literally unequipped to deal with religious belief.
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@danielmikaelson You're not responsible for how others feel about your beliefs. You're only responsible for how you feel about theirs. That truth brings me peace. If you're taking off now I'll catch you later
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@danielmikaelson There is nothing unnatural about being gay, all species with a gender sometimes show such behaviour. Adult content may be considered unnatural, but that leaves no reason to consider clopping to be a disease while not thinking equally badly of other forms of adult entertainment (at least, it seems that only cloppers should be "fixed" in your opinion, and others don't need to be). It's important to be consequent here in order to not sound hypocritical or like a follower who doesn't think for himself. (Nothing I said is meant offensive, so I hope it doesn't come across as that)
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@danielmikaelson WHO THE cherries ARE YOU
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@danielmikaelson yup no problem!
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@danielmikaelson Quick! Play the victim card yourself!!
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@danielmikaelson Does this "Love" by any chance take the form the form of encouraging them to "renounce" homosexuality so they can get into heaven?
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@danielmikaelson both you and the pony you DM must subscribe to one-another in order to exchange DMs
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@danielmikaelson Just so you're aware, you're not alone. I'm pansexual and my mother raised me in a home with female romantic partners, but I also believe marriage should be between a man and woman; I believe in abstinence until marriage, and I believe in not using clop material. You'll find many who are more liberal here, and some (usually far less vocal) who are conservative as I am in this regard. I feel it's important that you're aware, though, that ponies here are sensitive about gay rights issues. I've been told to stop talking about it before by mods, even when it wasn't me who brought it up. You may be advised to continue any lengthy conversations about the matter through Direct Messages (DM) [first subscribe then click Personal > Inbox > select recipient from drop-down]
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@danielmikaelson And that... IS bigoted
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@danielmikaelson Yeah. You said you don't think gays should be allowed to marry. Then, you said, "No, wait, other churches can totally do it." Who's changing what who's saying?
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@danielmikaelson Then what about an ORTHODOX gay couple??? Can they NEVER marry?
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@danielmikaelson I'm not. Being against someone having rights is oppressing them. Don't misinterpret what I said.
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@danielmikaelson I've said this before, hear me out... I genuinely have a slight sympathy for non-practicing pedophiles, because it is simply a sexual preference, not a purposeful act of evil. It is the same as someone being gay or bisexual, it isnt a choice, but we know that actually PRACTICING pedophillia IS a vile thing, wheras homosexuality in any form isnt.
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@danielmikaelson Um sir cartoon are real. Children are. See the difference. I dont watch r34 or whatever but dont bash people that do.
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@danielmikaelson actually they are 2 completely differrent things
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@danielmikaelson That's not what being against something means. It means you want to shut it down altogether.
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@danielmikaelson >Oppressing anyone who disagrees with you. >Not a bigot. >Lolwut.
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@danielmikaelson So you support the oppression of another human being . . . out of Love?
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@danielmikaelson Listen, the fact of the matter is that you're telling people that the fact they enjoy something you don't means they have to get counseling. I couldn't care less if you hated clop itself, but don't go around saying people who browse it are somehow "wrong".
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@danielmikaelson Holy logical fallacy, Batman!
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@danielmikaelson "I don't hate gay people. I just feel like they shouldn't have the same rights as straight people"
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@danielmikaelson And yet you insist that they're required to get counseling for it.
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@danielmikaelson Pedophilia is harming a child... physically and mentally, as well as being one of the most dispicable things imaginable... this opinion of yours seems quite flawed if im being honest....
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@danielmikaelson oh man everyone look at the bigotry in this statement
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@danielmikaelson I am against porn as well, but especially because of that I don't threat different kinds of adult content differently, I simply dislike them all. To me, your statement sounds awfully similar to something like "I hate marriages, therefore gays should not be allowed to marry" (please note that I am not implying you to be for or against gay marriage, as I do not know your opinion on that). At any rate, for me, it's a simple case of "they can do as they want as long as they don't shove it into my face". That I don't like it doesn't mean they can't enjoy it, especially with something this harmless.
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@danielmikaelson I bet I could get 5 sane people to agree to pushing you down a flight of stairs. Consensus does not make right. Peoples sexual preferences are not a democracy