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I AM SO HAPPY PEOPLE REFER TO ME AS SHE AND HER!!! =D IT'S AWESOME!
Monday, 31-Oct-11 01:03:49 UTC from web-
@fluttershy321 Nope.
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@fluttershy321 I'll make a point of it in future
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@remembernovember .epoN
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@fluttershy321 But i thought you were a boy
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@ponyveteran I am
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@fluttershy321 anything for you
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@fluttershy321 Then why is it awesome?
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@ponyveteran Cause male is a stupid gender
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@fluttershy321 No offense to any male
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@fluttershy321 That's kinda rude...
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@fluttershy321 Oh! So you...are...a guy who....hates being a guy? Wait what!?
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@ponyveteran Yes
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@colfax No no no, not what I meant, I hate being male.
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@colfax You have to understand she's going through that area of gender dysphoria right now that makes her want to change. And to her the sex she is now is not right and can cause aggression. But she will not mean it in a way against others of that gender. It's just to her.
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@mrdragon I know all that, I just don't care to be called stupid.
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@colfax I wasn't calling you stupid!
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@fluttershy321 Why?! Is this some sort of genderception!?
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@ponyveteran Gender Identity Dysphoria. Google it, it's quite a common ailment.
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@ponyveteran Why are you freaking out about this?!
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@ponyveteran no... He has the "qualities" of a girl... But was born male
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@mrdragon Ailment?
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@zach121k She*
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@mrdragon of course. How could I forget
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@fluttershy321 Ailment, condition and so on. I tend to just say Ailment as it's easier and I'm quite tired tonight to go in to other things. Sorry ;3
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@fluttershy321 I don't know. I just drank 2 cans of dr.pepper and feel REALLY curious about things
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@zach121k Ahh
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@mrdragon I don't see it as an ailment. I see it more as the lord made a mistake and put me in a boys body.
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@ponyveteran .... I hate being a boy.... Thats all there is..
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@fluttershy321 I know how you feel, your the not the first of my friends to go through this.
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@fluttershy321 Male is not a stupid gender, males are manly and great :D
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@fluttershy321 Well you just got to deal with things i guess... i gotta deal with my family hating on me for being a brony and you not like being a boy. But everything's not perfect right?
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@nerthos Yes, they are, and some are sweet and kind like Zach. I was saying I don't like being male
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@ponyveteran well, everyone alway thought i'm strange because i always liked cute stuff
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@ponyveteran I've been thinking of surgery..
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@mrdragon =/
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@fluttershy321 There's a lot more to it then just jumping in to surgery. It can take a couple of years before then. You have to go under hormone injection first to change your body so it will accept that kind of transition first.
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@fluttershy321 Well you should fully concider it before actually going for it. Things might really change if you get a sex change that you didn't think about.
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@mrdragon @fluttershy321 Before that you get to spend lots of quality time with a shrink too.
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@fluttershy321 Meh, gender isn't related to personality or behavior. That's just society standards.
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@mushi Life isn't perfect
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@colfax @ponyveteran @mrdragon I warned her
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@ponyveteran at least i can like cute stuff and dont give any explanation in the brony fandom
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@colfax Actually you don't, you see a professional and if they diagnose is fully they start trying to treat it right away. And by treat if they are under 15 they do through specialised hormone pills to change those thoughts. 15 - 17 I believe you can start on strong pills and then operation early. After that though it takes longer to do the full process.
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@zach121k Of what?
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@mrdragon I'm crying on the inside
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@zach121k If she takes it to a professional, and is diagnosed with this 100% there is no warnings. They either get the change, or be driven to insanity being stuck in a body they do not like. And many have in fact ended in suicide.
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@ponyveteran The reprocusions and stuff
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@colfax @mrdragon @ponyveteran I know what is needed for the surgery and I haven't even decided yet! Please just don't make this hard for me!
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@fluttershy321 Do what you want
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@fluttershy321 There's nothing hard about it, I recommend just talking to your doctor and getting their full advice and information on it. As I said, I know several people who have and are going through this. The hardest part if any is telling people, which you've done.
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@fluttershy321 I actually want to support you on this. Do whatever you think is the right thing to do
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@zach121k Ahh
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@fluttershy321 I'm here for you hon... And Carcinos just a lonely bananas so ignore him
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@mrdragon ....I've only told RDN...
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@zach121k I blocked him 7 months ago
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@fluttershy321 That's a start is it not? Many cannot tell anyone, a close friend of mine has only told me. But she's recently told others closer to home. It's a hard thing, but actually coming out about it to anyone is a start.
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@zach121k sorry I'm not like you who's only form of human contact is the internet
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@fluttershy321 Ah
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@carcino Meh... It works
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@zach121k Not Really.
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@mrdragon I haven't told cause I'm sick of people making fun of me... I know for a fact my dad my uncle joe and my grandpa larry would make fun of me if they knew.
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@fluttershy321 Haha good
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@carcino Just get outta here you troll, no one disses my lil sis
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@fluttershy321 It's nothing to be made fun of, and take no heed if they do. This 'aliment' (It's easier this way for me to say) is quite serious if not taken fully. You do what it is you need to do, if you need advice ask of me. I can get what is needed for you, not just from places. But also from those under going this change.
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@lilyannetherose you shouldnt feed the parasprite =/....
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@lilyannetherose Dear God This Is Hilarious. You've Been Here, What, A Week?
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@lilyannetherose oh shut up
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@mrdragon I just don't know if I should... Cause of all the changes that I'd have to go through and accept..
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@fluttershy321 I know. There's no need to rush it, may I ask of your age?
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@mrdragon 14
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@mrdragon 14 I need to wait until I'm older anyways. More time for me to think. I've been hating my gender since I was in kindergarden..
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@fluttershy321 i know the feeling lil sis, thats why we work so well together as a family
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@lilyannetherose =) I know
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@fluttershy321 I see. Yes, you have quite the time. Take it easy for now. There is no need to rush it, not at this time. It's better to be slow and planned then to rush it all.
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@mrdragon I know, I'll never stop thinking about it though.
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@fluttershy321 That's a common process, but just know that there are those you can talk to, me being one. Should you want to just talk about it and think about it with someone.
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@mrdragon @fluttershy321 me too
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@fluttershy321 I've accepted that I can help people in life with a lot of things, so I try to do that as much as I can. You've got people here to help you, should you need it. *hugs back*
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@fluttershy321 @mrdragon @zach121k In my mind, gender is not decided by your body but by your mind, if you think you're a girl or guy, then that's what you are, regardless of what you hormones or body parts you have, I would stay away from any surgery if I were you Jaden
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@mrdragon =)
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@fluttershy321 and you'll always have me sis
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@fluttershy321 @macpony55 Agreed... (pardon this) jaden... So what of you have a apples... It's the inside thA counts... (yes... I just embarrassed myself and risked banning for you)
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@zach121k why the hell would u risk that zach!!!!
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@lilyannetherose cuz I love her
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@lilyannetherose i will kick your bananas if you get my little sis banned!
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@zach121k I don't care.... being a boy is just not right for me
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@zach121k Banning someone for saying they have.. a... Whut? That's not even close to banable... I don't even with you at times..
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@zach121k @fluttershy321 forget the banning, it was used in context so I don't think the rule would apply in the same way, but yes, it's the inside that counts, the only thing that would be affected by "parts" would be "some activity that I would rather not mention to avoid unnecessary feelings/reactions"
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@macpony55 We don't have any rules.
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@fluttershy321 Ok... Just be careful
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@macpony55 Thats in no way what I want.
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@mrdragon I've done things worse.
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@remembernovember You and I both have.
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@fluttershy321 then why surgery?
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@mrdragon I was unaware of this
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@mrdragon .... http://ur1.ca/5k56z
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@macpony55 So i feel right. So it wouldn't be necessarily wrong for me to do girl things.
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@macpony55 Yep, there is NO official rulings. Only those that have been passed down to other mods. I've been TRYING to get something going, but it's getting no were. The only things we go off are the common parts, following the way the program we follows goes.
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@fluttershy321 surgery shouldn't be necessary for that though, it's an unnecessary risk
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@mrdragon oh, well that's good to know, thank you
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@macpony55 It's just odd for a boy to dress like a girl and go shopping for girls clothes though!
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@fluttershy321 @macpony55 mac, I think you need to have a look at this first. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder To understand what she is fully going through.
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@fluttershy321 not to j-rock singers
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@fluttershy321 Get a kilt.
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@colfax I used to have a Kilt, being half Scottish. And yes, I was commando with no underwear.
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@mrdragon TMI...
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@mrdragon Oh my Luna, there are those who actually do that? D:
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@mrdragon Badass
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@colfax tmi? English?
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@pinhooves What do you mean? It's Scottish tradition to do it.
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@mrdragon Too much info I think.
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@mrdragon =) Thanks for giving him that link
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@mrdragon ...This is my fetish.
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@mrdragon TMI= Too Much Information.
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@fluttershy321 oh, I thought it was just thinking and simple acts, not that type of stuff, now I see a little better what you're going through, but I still don't think surgery is a good way to go
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@colfax Those things aren't cute!
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@mrdragon Too Much Information.
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@grimauxiliatrix @colfax @pinhooves I see. I only speak English, not abbreviation. (apart from the obvious lol and such)
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@mrdragon I thought it was a joke. I didn't know they actually did that. (Sorry if that was rude to say)
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@pinhooves Oh no, it's been tradition for several hundred years now.
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@fluttershy321 Jaden... I changed my whole intention of learning first aid.
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@macpony55 =/ I'll still think about it
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@mrdragon I don't have a problem with tradition. I just think that's a bit strange. :p
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@pinhooves Ah yeah, if you were one of us though you'd think it normal :P
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@zach121k ??
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@fluttershy321 You know how I was learning first aid
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@mrdragon Because part of this isn't just my opinion, it's the group's.
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@mrdragon Okay, you have a point there. Actually, I miss going to Scotland now. It was so nice and pretty there. (Even if the seagulls did start going around at 4am.)
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@zach121k Yeah
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@pinhooves ^-^ You'll have to let me know if you ever come over again, grab the train up and meet you,
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@fluttershy321 Well now I'm doing it because it's the. Closest thing to a nurse you will get to have
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@mrdragon The London Tube was fun to ride too. Have you been to Kew Gardens? That was so pretty. :o
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@fluttershy321 alright, but please give it a few years thought before you do anything, make no rash decisions
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@zach121k =D
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@pinhooves No sadly, I do not get out much in to the world. Limitations on money and ability to travel (time and otherwise)
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@mrdragon And yes, I'd like to see you, @ceruleanspark and @cptscoot. :3
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@pinhooves I'm sure we can all sort something out one day :P
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@mrdragon Since there's a convention going on around May next year, I could possibly go visit Europe for that time. :D
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I GET IT! I GET IT ALRIGHT?! I NEED TO WAIT, I NEED TO NOT BE SO QUICK INTO MAKING THE DECISION OF SURGERY!! STOP PESTERING ME ABOUT IT!! I ALREADY KNOW!!!
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@pinhooves :o there is? Were is it?
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@mrdragon I think it may be the same one @ceruleanspark and @cptscoot attended. Sounds like fun!
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@pinhooves Must be down London way, if I have the funds and the work behind me I shall be able to arrive as well.
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@fluttershy321 Calm down honey please... I don't want you yelling
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@mrdragon That would be awesome! :3
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@zach121k I'm just getting so damn aggravated right now!
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@fluttershy321 Would a snuggle make it better
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@zach121k No... It wouldn't...
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@fluttershy321 Your best option is to go and rest for now, it'll allow you to relax a little. It'll calm you down.
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@fluttershy321 I'm so sorry.... What can I do. Why am I thinking you're having suicidal thoughts..... Why am I crying at this whole thing
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@fluttershy321 Ok... You aren't being suicidal right... Referencing a previous conversation
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@zach121k She'll figure it all out
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@zach121k If I were to kill myself how on earth would I be able to kiss you in person?
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@macpony55 Yep
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@fluttershy321 I'm the reason you're alive?
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@zach121k ...Pretty much...
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@zach121k @fluttershy321 my interest is peaked now about this whole GID( wouldn't really call it a disorder but whatever), I'm curious about the thought process behind it all
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@macpony55 Just cause I have it doesn't mean you need to drown me in questions. I'll answer 1 if you like.
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@fluttershy321 Please don't put that stress on me
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@zach121k Your one of the reasons I'm alive
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@fluttershy321 I don't intend to drown you in questions, all I said was you peaked my curiosity about it
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@macpony55 And I expected questions
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@fluttershy321 that is the standard response
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@macpony55 ...
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@fluttershy321 I meant the questions, thus causing an expectation of them
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@macpony55 ...
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@fluttershy321 I'm gonna quote you. "Can't hurt the unhurtable =)"
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@fluttershy321 No your not, you have done nothing to deserve it. If certain ponies on here thought about the fact that being a brony means spreading love and happiness instead of being a total prick, then things would be easier. Your not the issue.
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@fluttershy321 No. You just need to relax.... Breathe in... Breathe out
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@mrdragon ...
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@zach121k ...
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@fluttershy321 Just finished reading that page @mrdragon linked me to, I now have a slightly better understanding
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@zach121k .... I need a break...... I'm going to go lay down before I erupt from anger and irritation... I love you...
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@fluttershy321 Back at you :)
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