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  1. Holy bananasing mangoes guys this music. http://rainbowdash.net/url/778818

    Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:36:26 UTC from web
    1. @coltz Inb4Tyler comment about how bad Imagine Dragons is

      Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:37:47 UTC from web
      1. @fyf Already waiting for it

        Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:38:23 UTC from web
      2. @fyf Imagine Dragons is to indie rock what Linkin Park is to normal rock.

        Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:40:22 UTC from web
        1. @pandabear Actually by that logic it makes perfect sense for you to like Imagine Dragons.

          Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:42:27 UTC from web
      3. @fyf They aren't too bad actually. I mean, no vilification is required.

        Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:40:52 UTC from web
        1. @metaltao You're talking to the wrong person, I like Imagine Dragons

          Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:41:33 UTC from web
      4. @fyf UNINSPIRED OVERPRODUCED NEO INDIE DROLL ALARM BEEP BEEP BEEP

        Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:41:24 UTC from web
        1. @northernnarwhal HAH! It is still music. Uninspired? And, what is Over Produced? You mean time? Money? Effort? WHat production is? I still don't understand what that means.

          Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:42:36 UTC from web
          1. @metaltao My point

            (whooshing noise)

            Your head

            Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:43:50 UTC from web
            1. @northernnarwhal BEEP BEEP BEEP? You were refering to how often you have stated this in the past like a broken record right? Or like a robot? Or did that mean something else?

              Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:44:33 UTC from web
            2. @northernnarwhal Can you elaborate please? Or would you rather not?

              Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:46:31 UTC from web
              1. @metaltao *sigh* Ellie pretty much covered the overproduced part, in the sense that the group's music is very pristine and clean cut to be mass produced and marketed to a wide audience who could never understand the sheer concept of dissonance as an element of musicality. That being said, the group is also generally very uninspired, utilizing large amounts of lyrical cliches and hooks to compensate for their otherwise uninteresting and rehashed instrumentation. Generally speaking the group has presented themselves as a poster child for this new movement of music listeners who abide by the philosophy of "OMG SO INDEH GUIZE" and wouldn't know an independent record if they got slapped across the face with one. That is, in short, why I don't like Imagine Dragons.

                Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:53:04 UTC from web
                1. @northernnarwhal Compare Night Visions, Some Nights, and Native. I don't want to say they're exactly the same because to a music pleb who doesn't notice themes, arche-types, chord progressions, lyrical cliches, and stuff like that, they may seem like very different albums. They're not. They're the exact same.

                  Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:56:22 UTC from web
                  1. @fyf Also I like all three of them.

                    Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:56:36 UTC from web
                  2. @fyf Well, different means to the same end. Imagine Dragons rip off Radiohead and Fun rip off Simon & Garfunkel (on Some Nights, anyway, their first was great)

                    Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:00:26 UTC from web
                    1. @northernnarwhal Well, I'm talking entirely Night Visions era Imagine Dragons and Some Nights era Fun. Imagine Dragons era Imagine Dragons was delightful, and Aim and Ignite era Fun was wonderful

                      Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:02:05 UTC from web
                      1. @fyf I honestly wasn't even that crazy about early Imagine Dragons either, but Aim and Ignite by Fun is a glorious record.

                        Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:02:57 UTC from web
                        1. @northernnarwhal Early Imagine Dragons has nothing on early Fun, but they're still better and less generic than modern Imagine Dragons.

                          Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:03:29 UTC from web
                          1. @fyf Yes, I agree with all of that.

                            Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:04:19 UTC from web
                2. @northernnarwhal AHHH! NOW THAT! Is interesting! I guess yeah, they do seem rather awkward there. Now, I just thought. Do they act as a gateway to other people to the rest of this genre? Because they are so generic, they are able to grab peoples interest in the genre and explore? Probably. I do see you point. But, I have yet to see these "Cliches" yet. I am not perceptive at all. But redundancy is not inherently a bad thing. Great job dude! I LOVED READING THIS! I think I can understand where you are coming from finally. I had a rather negative view of you I couldn't shake off! Thanks!

                  Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:00:07 UTC from web
                  1. @metaltao To be fair, you probably don't notice these cliches and what not because you probably don't listen to music as critically as Tyler.

                    Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:01:19 UTC from web
                3. @northernnarwhal I used to screw with an OMG INDEH pre-hipster scene-dweeb by pointing out that at the time of this single http://youtu.be/--2nwwrv37s Alice Cooper was on an "independent" label, and therefore "indie."

                  Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:02:13 UTC from web
                  1. @scribus I just find it hilarious when these kids think they're hot stuff and "so indie" yet they don't even know who Pavement are.

                    Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:03:59 UTC from web
                    1. @northernnarwhal I don't know who Pavement are. I liked Thundersnail, though!

                      Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:07:29 UTC from web
                      1. @scribus Look at it this way: Pavement are to indie rock what Alice Cooper is to shock rock.

                        Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:08:29 UTC from web
                        1. @northernnarwhal Widely under-appreciated musicians more well-known for their theatrics who frequently surprise casual listeners with both their depth and breadth?

                          Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:09:34 UTC from web
                          1. @scribus I was thinking "godfathers of their respective genres" but that actually also fits both groups.

                            Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:10:36 UTC from web
                            1. @northernnarwhal I love it when I'm goofing around and happen to also still be right. :p

                              Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:13:29 UTC from web
                              1. @scribus I'd like to imagine that's how science works

                                Saturday, 20-Sep-14 03:16:31 UTC from web
          2. @metaltao Over produced is basically when they spend too much time in editing. Stuff like too much unnecessary reverb, auto-tune, needless filters, that kinda stuff. A lot of bands use it to try to make their music sound good when it really isn't.

            Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:46:23 UTC from web
            1. @fyf Mind if I go on a small rant? Or debate with you on this? Like how nothing is needless, it is a song. They are not catering to you like Katy Perry and other Commercialized artists. Just themselves.

              Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:51:22 UTC from web
              1. @metaltao But, even then, she does have some input, and the writers are artists themselves

                Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:51:40 UTC from web
                1. @metaltao But I guess the question may be, are they expressing their views or someone elses?

                  Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:52:24 UTC from web
                  1. @metaltao Basically, they do all that production stuff because they can't make their music sound good naturally. They also tend to dumb it down so that it will appeal to a general audience, but in doing so it loses any sort of power it may have had.

                    Again, when I say "they", I /don't mean Imagine Dragons/

                    Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:58:33 UTC from web
              2. @metaltao A lot of singers don't even write their own music, and very few produce their own music. I want to stress the point that I /don't/ think Imagine Dragons is overproduced. However I /do/ think being overproduced is a bad thing.

                Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:52:49 UTC from web
        2. @northernnarwhal Not as overproduced as U2 or Nickelback, not as uninspired as Mumford and Sons, and less neo indie droll than DFA 1979

          Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:44:06 UTC from web
          1. @fyf >DFA1979
            >indie droll
            >pick one

            Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:45:32 UTC from web
          2. @fyf Wat does Overproduced mean?

            Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:45:51 UTC from web
    2. @coltz HLY grapes! THE GEOLOGICAL IMAGERY~!

      Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:37:53 UTC from web
    3. @coltz HLY cherries! THE GEOLOGICAL IMAGERY~!

      Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:37:55 UTC from web
    4. @coltz As far as the video goes, it's pretty great. I love how dramatic their videos always are. I remember last year's when they all became Anime characters and beat the grapes out of each other

      Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:39:11 UTC from web
      1. @fyf Yes, they do a great job at video making. I'm still starting to listen to them, but I'am already liking their style a lot.

        Saturday, 20-Sep-14 02:41:13 UTC from web