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  1. I am so far out of my comfort zone lately. I know it's good to branch out, but I'm damn near completely adrift. I'm not entirely certain that I can remember where my old comfort zone is, aside from vidya and booze. Oh, and cartoons. Vidya, booze, and cartoons. Nothing that applies to my "real" life. I just want to feel like I have financial stability and job security and at least a theoretical retirement if I live that long. I really do need to ask my doctor about something for my paralyzing anxiety. BUT I'M SO GORRAM ANXIOUS ABOUT THAT!! At least I can recognize that my kiwi being kiwied up is funny.

    Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 18:56:07 UTC from MuSTArDroid
    1. @scribus anxiety is no joke love, been there. And it's okay to be anxious about talking to your doctor too. Is it just white coat syndrome, or are you worried about taking meds for the anxiety?

      Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:01:47 UTC from web at 44°58'7"N 93°21'35"W
      1. @companionanne I . . . . I really don't know. I think I'm more afraid of it not working and having wasted my time & money that I only have so much of and other things to use it on.

        Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:14:54 UTC from MuSTArDroid
        1. @scribus my first real experience with anxiety... I missed two weeks of work, unpaid. I was crippled to the point where I couldn't even leave the house... and that's when I finally got help. Yes, preventative care (and mental health DOES qualify as 'preventative care' in my book) can be costly and time consuming. But, take it from someone who knows. The alternative can be worse. I gotta go... Gotta go see my therapist LOL... I'll check in on you later though. Take care.

          Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:25:52 UTC from web at 44°58'7"N 93°21'35"W
          1. @companionanne Have a good one!

            Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:27:02 UTC from MuSTArDroid
            1. @scribus Back now doll, online if you need to talk.

              Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 21:45:08 UTC from web at 44°58'7"N 93°21'35"W
              1. @companionanne Hanging in so far, thanks. :-)

                Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 22:34:08 UTC from MuSTArDroid
          2. @companionanne until then, take care.

            Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:27:46 UTC from web
    2. @scribus that damned vicious cycle, man. It is nice indeed that you can laugh at the absurdity of how that works, but nonetheless i hope things can work out for you. Who knows, the feelings of being out adrift will change into brand new confidences.

      Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:09:05 UTC from web
      1. @saintnichawlas I think I'll be a lot happier when I'm settled into an actual set task at my job, and possibly also after I manage to pay off one or another of my looming (but under control) debts. But all of that takes time, and time is non-refundable, and if I'm ever going to (buy a house/get married/have kids/see the world/et cetera) then I need to act sooner than later!

        Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:13:27 UTC from MuSTArDroid
        1. @scribus i get you there. At least you see that it does take time instead of nust get up and move somewhere else, expecting the grass to be greener. I'd like so much to get out of automotive, now, but changing career paths takes baby steps many a time, and may not even be a viable option this point. But, i have to

          Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:25:20 UTC from web
    3. @scribus I hit a similar stage with anxiety - I was too anxious to fill out a test designed to test you for anxiety. That was the point we decided I should see a doctor.

      Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:32:49 UTC from web
      1. @thelastgherkin Yeah, I ended up slogging through the same path RE: depression. I think maybe that's part of my reluctance, too - wondering if it's two problems, or if my one problem is worse than I thought.

        Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:34:44 UTC from MuSTArDroid
        1. @scribus It was telling the doctor about anxiety that got me put on anti-depressants. The two conditions walk hand in hand.

          Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:40:14 UTC from web
        2. @scribus Anxiety causes you to not do things, or to think you'll fail at them. That in turn makes you feel like you'll never get things done, in turn making yo depressed. It also works the opposite way. So both issues are technically one, bigger problem.

          Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:43:35 UTC from web
    4. @scribus For retirement I'd say try to aim for dealing with whatever debts you might have then put your money on buying land in semi-urban areas that are going to grow in the next few decades. Then you can slowly invest in building a couple little apartments in that land, as bricks and metals don't have an expiration date, so once you're old you can live on the rent. That's how people tend to do it over here so they don't have to worry about state-managed retirement money not being enough.

      Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:36:47 UTC from web
      1. @nerthos That's a funny joke. Real estate? In Amerika? For the middle class? Ahahahaha. (But seriously, it is a very good idea and unfortunately horribly difficult to do with the price of land out here)

        Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:42:13 UTC from MuSTArDroid
        1. @scribus Maybe the price of land where you live is really high, but I'm sure if you look enough you'll be able to find somewhere you can buy. If not, you can always buy outside taking advantage of currency exchange rates. That'll likely turn in less money but at the very least you'll have land you can sell if something comes up and you need big money fast.

          Wednesday, 10-Dec-14 19:45:54 UTC from web