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@delores @rohan There were a hell of a lot of really batcaveing weird brownies though we got stories.
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Friday, 24-Jun-16 16:14:36 UTC from web
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@rohan @delores There was this kid who started off alright but eventually grew into the biggest attention whore known to man. He just kept posting stupid personal papaya over and over. I'm drawing a blank on it now though, I remember this a lot less than I thought I did. There were a lot of elaborate setups to troll him though. I think RDN started really cracking down on moderation because of all the stuff we did.
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@rohan @normandy You guys have to remember this site has over 5 years of age by now. At the start it /was/ an MLP site, but it drifted off because no one can seriously keep up intense fanboyism for that long.
Friday, 24-Jun-16 20:43:30 UTC from web-
@nerthos A MLP site? I always thought it was a site for discussing rain, bowing, and dashing.
Friday, 24-Jun-16 20:45:12 UTC from web -
@nerthos @normandy tbh i had no idea gnu had been around so long
i thought it was made recently because of twitters cucked policies
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@rohan GNUsocial wasn't. GNUsocial exists upon the corpse of the statusnet fediverse, of which RDN is one of the last alive original networks.
Friday, 24-Jun-16 22:38:11 UTC from web-
@nerthos @rohan Yeah, it actually started as laconica back in 2008, which was first used for identi.ca. That site now uses a different backend now btw.
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@normandy RIP identi.ca, greatest of the statusnet networks until it was updated to pump.io to promote it, and no one liked it.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:33:57 UTC from web-
@nerthos @normandy pump.io is just so much "why?". The architecture may be better but the actual design of the front end makes Twitter look like 100% pure gold. It's labyrinthine and unmanageable.
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@maiyannah @normandy They killed a thriving network for the sake of "look at my new shiny, everyone should use it"
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:39:16 UTC from web -
@maiyannah @normandy @nerthos it was released too early, they refused UI enhancements because they said it was just supposed to be the stock one and others should be made, then the main guy joined a startup and nothing happened for years. hundreds of issues piled up, a bunch of the servers went offline, at the same time, then they added that idiotic contributor covenant but there's activity again.
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@moonman @nerthos @normandy I feel like I've a better chance of making something usable out of GNU social than pump.io - the latter needs far too much work.
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@maiyannah @normandy @nerthos the appeal for me is that it is MUCH faster, and it's more suited for handling arbitrary activity types than gnusocial that, as far as I can tell but I could be wrong, basically has a set of activity types hardcoded into it that it can handle.
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@moonman Plugins enable more activity types. That's how bookmarks, events etc. work. Those plugins suck and deliver pretty crappy user experience because of bugs, but they are the definition of pluggable activity types :P
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@moonman Maybe you just need to come back down to earth sometimes. https://social.umeahackerspace.se/attachment/81498
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@rohan Also our lower bound for age is 12.
Friday, 24-Jun-16 20:56:07 UTC from web
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@miki The good old days.
Friday, 24-Jun-16 20:41:41 UTC from web-
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@miki The userbase changing? Rules? Admins leaving the site to others? The fact that they never let us deal with the attention whores properly? I don't know, I just remember it was really fun to mess with the drama queens.
Friday, 24-Jun-16 20:44:49 UTC from web-
@nerthos since I came around in 2014, the rule seemed to be that it was okay to mess with drama queens as long as they aren't site regulars. New users seemed to be fair game.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:36:34 UTC from web-
@razzleberry Yeah, we were talking 2011 with the undisputed kings of crying, stargazer, fluttershy321, and crew. Car and I among others tried to make them feel really unwelcome but weren't allowed to do mugh
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:38:24 UTC from web-
@nerthos yeah, I replied to the wrong post, I meant to reply to your comment about how they cracked down on moderation and what not.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:39:04 UTC from web-
@razzleberry Oh, late 2011 saw complete anarchy and by 2012 some actual rules were finally implemented. Then 2013 had the filter instituted and the little war. Before that it was mostly lawless.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:40:30 UTC from web-
@nerthos then we come to 2016 where the user base of the site is like ten people, and rules and mods are basically redundant.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:41:43 UTC from web-
@razzleberry Yep. The one good thing of a walking dead community is that you don't really need to moderate as the few that stay are well aware of how everything works.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:43:29 UTC from web-
@nerthos at this point being a mod basically means you delete spammers.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:44:08 UTC from web-
@razzleberry Yep. And the biased mods don't come around much either, which is great. Beats my time trying to do that during basically a civil war and with an uncaring and lying admin by a long shot though.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:45:34 UTC from web
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@nerthos I remember the 2015 mindset of "let's treat new users right so RDN can be a 'safe place' for them, even if they're terrible"
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:46:03 UTC from web-
@razzleberry I always tried to go with a 50/50 outlook on that. Being patient with them and explaining site functionality and rules to get them to integrate, and being smug and annoying to them if they refused to. Basically "you're welcome here as long as you work on fitting in"
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:47:44 UTC from web-
@nerthos to me it feels rational, if they don't like the sites vibe or humor, why be here? I remember people kept throwing around the word "hazing" to a ridiculous extent. For some reason if I made fun of a veteran user, it was playful banter, but if I said the same things to a new user, it was hazing.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:49:55 UTC from web-
@razzleberry Oh, yeah, I always saw it the same way, and was as much of a jerk to everyone. For me it always came down to how each user acted, not how long they were around.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:52:10 UTC from web-
@nerthos yeah exactly. I remember there was this one guy who kept spamming pictures of his internet speed test, and everyone was reasonably annoyed, and they called him out on it and he started crying, and suddenly they were he bad guys
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:54:12 UTC from web-
@razzleberry Oh that's something I could never put up with, both online and in real life. If someone reacts to being called out by crying, I'd rather hit that person than defend them.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:55:29 UTC from web-
@nerthos they called it bullying.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:56:19 UTC from web-
@razzleberry IMO they needed some fisting.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:56:41 UTC from web-
@nerthos I'm not much of a physical type but they definitely needed some good verbal lashings
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:58:34 UTC from web-
@razzleberry I'm a firm believer of concusive therapy as a cure for attention whoring and crybabying.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 07:59:53 UTC from web-
@nerthos I used to be the queen of "let's be nice to everyone!" But a lot changed
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 08:00:35 UTC from web-
@razzleberry Old lady ellie cracking down on the drama queens
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 08:02:23 UTC from web-
@nerthos after a while you just get tired of it all.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 08:06:51 UTC from web-
@razzleberry Yep. Hence why I don't play site politics anymore like I did in the early years, I gave up.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 08:07:32 UTC from web-
@nerthos heh, when I first became a mod I remember I wanted to change things, actually keep things civil and organized, enforce rules equally without bias. I never thought I would be another one of the bitter, deadbeat mods, but that's just how it goes.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 08:11:12 UTC from web-
@razzleberry I stopped caring when I got banned by a certain fiend over a joke they didn't bother to ask if it was with ill intent or not, aimed at a guy who later went nuclear and banned half the site, even though I had a years long perfect record, and the upper echelons of the staff didn't demote or even scold him. There I knew there was no real interest in making the site good or fair anymore.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 08:20:30 UTC from web-
@nerthos it is what it is, it never really changes
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 08:24:51 UTC from web-
@razzleberry It is a corpse falling apart slowly.
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 08:33:14 UTC from web
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@miki Here comes more crying
Friday, 24-Jun-16 21:17:08 UTC from web-
@redenchilada Find me the post.
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@miki I think it was removed
Friday, 24-Jun-16 21:23:40 UTC from web-
@redenchilada I'll do some digging.
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@redenchilada Why is this promoted
Saturday, 25-Jun-16 18:10:56 UTC from web
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