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One plus to leaving my laptop on overnight is that the heat from the fan keeps my comb nice and warm for in the morning c:
Tuesday, 11-Dec-12 13:55:12 UTC from web-
@redenchilada is that the only reason?
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@unhipdruid Actually, usually it is. I rarely get on before school, and on weekends the boot time from hibernation really doesn't take that long.
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@redenchilada i dont have to hibernate, computers booted from Cold to windows in about 10 seconds...
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@unhipdruid Mine is a minute and a half to the desktop that takes five more minutes to be ready to use versus a minute (including fingerprint swiping) to all my programs already open how I like them.
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@redenchilada *GAWKES AT THE DECADES OF WASTED TIME!*
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@unhipdruid I'd worry more about boot times if they actually mattered. Seriously, I turn this thing on once a day and leave it on. One minute to do that doesn't mean much.
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@redenchilada Fingerprint... swiping? Is there any reason to use that besides paranoia? :x
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@omni to feel cool?
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@omni Laziness
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@omni (coming from Mr. "oh no google is spying on me".) No. It's just cool to do. Plus I do take this thing out from time to time and I'd like to have a least a rudimentary layer of security from the average thug stealing it and getting into my data.
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@ceruleanspark That's something I expected, but typing a password and pressing "enter" seems faster to me.
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@redenchilada In fairness, it's pretty much a given that Google is collecting data on you. It just comes down to whether you believe they have (or will one day have) malicious intent for the use of that data.
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@redenchilada Fair enough. (Also, there was no need to take that as a "lol y u paranoid" because I quite honestly wondered if there was another reason (I like the idea of using it, thought))
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@omni It depends on the reader and software. The Dell laptops we use here have really good recognition, so it's a sub-second task.
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@ceruleanspark Ah, I see. I guess I should see if it would be possible to tweak the FSF Europe Fellowship Smartcard (this thing: https://fellowship.fsfe.org/card.en.html) in a way so it can be used for that. The fact that you can store your PGP keys on it makes me feel like I could in some way use it to unlock something, at least. I'm not even sure if I'll get the thing, but it just seems cool and it would be cool if I could do something semi-useful with it.
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@omni If I had a reader I'd be very interested in that. As it is, I'm only moderately interested in that. I'm sure full disk encryption and biometric auth will suffice.
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@ceruleanspark "Biometric auth" is stuff like fingerprint scanning, right?
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@omni and retina etc...
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@omni Yes. It replaces the "something you have" of security theory with "something you are"
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@bitshift Exactly. /Everyone/ collects data about people using their service. If they're not using it to target you, there's no big problem with that.
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@ceruleanspark A fingerprint is still "something you have". It's a lot harder to forge, but a lot easier to socially engineer.
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@redenchilada Err... wrong?
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@redenchilada Nothing to hide, nothing to fear, eh?
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@toksyuryel Hey gimme your hand *scans* Thanks for the laptop! *sails off laughing into the sunset*
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@redenchilada There could be a problem with it if you don't trust how secure they are keeping that data. You also have to trust that the government isn't going to have malicious intent for it.
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@ceruleanspark 'Tis how I live.
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@redenchilada Says the guy who edits his face out of every photo he posts.
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@omni Most services keep at least a record of who accessed their site when.
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@ceruleanspark I've posted plenty of photos of my face before.
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@toksyuryel I'm just repeating the catchy 2/3 factor auth maxim they have you memorise.
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@toksyuryel True, but that's a problem unrelated to the base keeping of the data. I'm not denying that can be an issue.
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@redenchilada The ones I've seen have had scootaloo crudely pasted onto them.
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@ceruleanspark I haven't done that.
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@redenchilada If they aren't prepared to uphold a promise to keep sensitive data secure then they should not be collecting it in the first place, especially if they then try to evade punishment for breaking their promise.
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@toksyuryel Yeah but you're saying that the problem is with what they do with the data, not the simple act of collecting it. I'm not saying that isn't true!
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@redenchilada What I am saying is not so binary. The simple act of collecting it can be wrong dependent on numerous factors, some of which I've laid out.
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@ceruleanspark He doesn't edit them, the camera just seems to do that itself for some reason.
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@redenchilada Most, but not every.
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@redenchilada Does google know your address? Probably, if you've got an Android phone. You have absolutely no say in what they choose to do with that information. Doesn't that make you at least a little uncomfortable?
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@omni Fine, then, let me rephrase; the services with marketable value collect at least the data of who accesses what when. It's a necessary component of making their site viable to advertisers.
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@ceruleanspark No, not really. They have no reason to cone after me.
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@redenchilada They don't, but suppose someone else does and manages to get it off them?
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@toksyuryel They'd also have addresses of millions of more important people. It wouldn't make sense to bother with me. I have nothing that would make it worth their while.
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@redenchilada Unless someone is targeting you specifically
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@ceruleanspark I don't believe I've entered my address into my phone at any point, but they could still have access through my Verizon account.
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@pony It has a GPS in it, and if you've accepted the terms of service, you've consented to having your location logged.
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@toksyuryel If anyone's targeting me specifically, they have tons of other ways to get my address. Hell, an IP backtrace through my vhost (that IRC makes public) would do the trick.
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@ceruleanspark ah. hadn't thought about that. Although it's not likely they'd be able to pinpoint my address since I live in apartments.
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@pony You need to give them your credit card billing address to use the play store.
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@ceruleanspark hmm.. I don't recall ever having done that.. but I'm on my mother's family plan so they might have hers.
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@ceruleanspark I suppose that if i ever purchase one of their products that I'm openly trusting the credit card company and Google with my information.
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@pony Really it's just a matter of whether or not you consider it a fair exchange. Some people do, others don't. What people need to NOT do is bury their heads in the sand about things like that.
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@ceruleanspark big corporations are scary :P I do sometimes wish i cared enough to avoid them, but... time and money something..
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@ceruleanspark I honestly have no clue if I accepted it. I've switched to CyanogenMod, so I hope I'm at least somewhat save, but my next phone will be one which runs Replicant :x
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@omni I think there's a checkbox in location settings for sharing location data.
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@ceruleanspark That one is off. GPS is completely disabled. I still don't trust it, though, so I'd like to use something like Replicant so I can feel more certain about "off" really meaning "off". I've heard of enough cases where it actually isn't the same.
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