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  1. Eris Eris

    No, friend, I can't make a suitable comparison of Gentoo to Debian/Ubuntu/Mint..

    Monday, 31-Dec-12 10:21:48 UTC from api
    1. Omni Omni

      @neurario Gentoo: extremely flexible and powerful when done right, disaster otherwise. The others: should just work.

      Monday, 31-Dec-12 10:23:37 UTC from MuSTArDroid
      1. Eris Eris

        @omni Indeed, they kind of have different purposes. I don't think this guy has even played with linux, but I get the feeling he's looking for somewhere to jump in. :X

        Monday, 31-Dec-12 10:26:54 UTC from api
        1. Omni Omni

          @neurario No sane newbie jumps in with Gentoo. That's like climbing the Mount Everest all by yourself after just having learnt how to crawl. Please, recommend him a more same starting point like Mint.

          Monday, 31-Dec-12 15:39:11 UTC from MuSTArDroid
          1. Pony Pony

            @omni I finally mastered the power button.. I think I'm ready.

            Monday, 31-Dec-12 15:40:34 UTC from web
      2. Dominic Fandrey Dominic Fandrey

        @omni What sucks about Gentoo is the upgrade path. If you don't stay up to date, there's a point when you'll have to start from scratch.

        Monday, 31-Dec-12 14:20:44 UTC from web
        1. Omni Omni

          @kamikaze Define "not stay up-to-date". I hope to never get more than a month behind in the worst case scenario., and I normally update my system practically daily.

          Monday, 31-Dec-12 15:42:34 UTC from MuSTArDroid
          1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

            @omni It's up to chance really as it depends on exactly when the critical system-breaking upgrades happen and how many you miss. One month out of date as a worst case should be perfectly safe though. Three months out of date is getting a bit dicey, and six months out of date is just asking for it to break.

            Monday, 31-Dec-12 15:47:55 UTC from web
          2. Dominic Fandrey Dominic Fandrey

            @omni I have some systems that I only update every couple of years.

            Monday, 31-Dec-12 15:54:42 UTC from web
            1. Omni Omni

              @kamikaze Why so rarely?

              Monday, 31-Dec-12 15:56:53 UTC from MuSTArDroid
              1. Dominic Fandrey Dominic Fandrey

                @omni There's no need to update them. They do what they're supposed to.

                Monday, 31-Dec-12 15:58:34 UTC from web
                1. Omni Omni

                  @kamikaze Are they not connected to the Internet or in another state where security updates are not all that important? I can't believe that would be safe.

                  Monday, 31-Dec-12 16:00:27 UTC from MuSTArDroid
                  1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

                    @omni It's BSD. They just get it right the first time.

                    Monday, 31-Dec-12 16:01:00 UTC from web
                    1. Omni Omni

                      @toksyuryel Completely off-topic and I can't work on Gentoo now but... would you recommend me to use genkernel or not? :x

                      Monday, 31-Dec-12 16:18:58 UTC from MuSTArDroid
                      1. Toksyuryel Toksyuryel

                        @omni Never use genkernel. It actually doesn't work at all, I have tried it and it always ends with compile errors.

                        Monday, 31-Dec-12 17:26:34 UTC from web
                        1. Omni Omni

                          @toksyuryel I see. Thanks for the tip.

                          Monday, 31-Dec-12 19:08:37 UTC from MuSTArDroid
                  2. Dominic Fandrey Dominic Fandrey

                    @omni Most security vulnerabilities are irrelevant to their use cases. If you only run a couple of server services you very rarely get vulnerabilities that actually affect you.

                    Monday, 31-Dec-12 16:03:12 UTC from web
                    1. Omni Omni

                      @kamikaze I see. I was unaware of that.

                      Monday, 31-Dec-12 16:04:30 UTC from MuSTArDroid
          3. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

            @omni You have to update every day? Man, I haven't updated in more than 9 months.

            Monday, 31-Dec-12 15:57:32 UTC from web
      3. Dominic Fandrey Dominic Fandrey

        @omni Whereas running FreeBSD, I can take an ancient 4.x installation and update it all the way to the 9.1 Release.

        Monday, 31-Dec-12 14:22:24 UTC from web