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Ughgughgh
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@foxgopher same
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@yodelerty Dude this whole getting married thing is killing me
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@foxgopher What's happened?
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@yodelerty just a lot. I think it getting dark earlier isn't helping
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@foxgopher Ah. I'm sorry man. On the bright side once it's done everything will be good
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@yodelerty Thank goodness
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@foxgopher marriage is something else i guess
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@yodelerty Dude I'm so tired all the time
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@foxgopher Yikes. I'm sorry man. That's adult life I guess
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@yodelerty It's horrible
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@metaltao Less stress
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@foxgopher Exactly what I thought being an adult would be. Still an excellent thing to do, getting married
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@yodelerty I mean, you get two incomes instead of one. How great is that
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@foxgopher 10/10 excellent plus you get to be with a great girl like Liz so I dunno it seems worth the stress
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@yodelerty Maybe it is
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@foxgopher It's gotta be man
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@yodelerty It should be after a couple weeks
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@foxgopher Hell yeah man. Your life is gonna get goooood
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@yodelerty well better
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@foxgopher I'd say pretty decent
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@yodelerty Yupppp
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@foxgopher envy, man
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@yodelerty Nah don't
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@foxgopher Why man
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@yodelerty You ain't hafta
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@foxgopher I wish I could stop yo
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@yodelerty You cannn
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@foxgopher you don't understand me man. I don't even understand me
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@yodelerty I can't understnad why I don't understand
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@foxgopher Huh?
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@yodelerty exactly
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@foxgopher uh alright man
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@yodelerty Whaddaup
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@foxgopher Playing Isaac
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@yodelerty I love that game <3
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@northernnarwhal You play Rebirth yet?
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@yodelerty Dude idk about that game man
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@foxgopher Play it
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@yodelerty I have it on PS4 but idkkk
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@foxgopher what do you mean idkkkkk
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@yodelerty Like it was funny but IDKKK
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@yodelerty Not yet, I only have the original with the Wrath of the Lamb DLC
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@foxgopher i am very confused did you like it or does idk mean "i'm donkey kong" and your kong hands are preventing you from playing it well
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@northernnarwhal I have like 366 hours on that
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@yodelerty The second
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@foxgopher Your hands didn't look that kong-like when I was there
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@yodelerty Damn, I think I have under 100 but still a fair amount. I really like it, it's a clever mixture of action rpg gameplay with rogue elements.
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@yodelerty Its recent. Comes with the lack of being married
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@northernnarwhal Surprisingly, for a game that's not very long I got a ton of hours out of it which never happens. I usually get bored well before that.
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@foxgopher I'm not married, where are my kong hands
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@yodelerty But you aren not engaged
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@foxgopher That's true. Guess I'll never have to worry about kong hands then
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@yodelerty One day you shall
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@foxgopher you're funny
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@yodelerty Yeah, it has addictive and fast paced gameplay but it's also varied enough to create replay value
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@northernnarwhal top addiction software for sure.
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@yodelerty Plus it's incredibly challenging and rewarding
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@northernnarwhal speaking of challenging, Rebirth has a hard mode
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@yodelerty Oh boy, I'd hate to fight Satan on that
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@northernnarwhal I didn't even make it to Satan on hard mode. I died in Sheol once because one of the curses makes the screen really dark so it's hard to see obstacles and enemies.
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@yodelerty Well you could always come to Vegas, get drunk, get married.
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@yodelerty Oh gosh that's brutal, especially since the enemies there have some nasty ranges
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@foxgopher That'll be a last resort type deal. Probably gonna have to do it though
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@yodelerty I mean, that isn't a last resort, its just an option
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@northernnarwhal I actually ended up dying by running into one I didn't know was there since some of the rooms are larger and the camera moves with you so you can see all of it. If I knew that could happen I would have ended the run at Mom's Heart.
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@foxgopher It's not a great option. That's why I'll only do it once I've fully proven I'll die alone otherwise
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@yodelerty Fair enough
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@yodelerty Yeah, Mom's Heart usually does it for me when I play
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@foxgopher yee
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@northernnarwhal Fun times all around man
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@yodelerty Except when you fight its alternate version later and it can summon bosses
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@northernnarwhal I usually just use bombs if I have enough to spam them. And thankfully you usually have more strength so they die a lot quicker.
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@yodelerty That's true, it's still a pain to focus on all of them though. Maybe I just suck ;-;
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@northernnarwhal Or I spent too much time on it because I have no life and I'm hella lame
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@yodelerty We all have our interests, it's just something you've developed yourself to be good at
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@yodelerty Things are getting cray
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@northernnarwhal Too bad it's nothing useful or interesting to anyone
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@foxgopher eh?
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@yodelerty I think it's cool, I like Isaac
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@yodelerty My parents and her parents are talkingggg
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@northernnarwhal I guess :x
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@foxgopher That sounds like a blast man
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@yodelerty Stop being ashamed of yourself even when you do well, you should be happy you have the capacity to understand a system and improve yourself within it
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@foxgopher but why
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@yodelerty because thats been a really big problem
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@northernnarwhal But it's worthless skill. It doesn't mean anything. It's just more time I wasted.
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@foxgopher How so?
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@yodelerty They real angry
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@foxgopher That's lame man, why are they angry
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@yodelerty Just with what we're doing really
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@foxgopher I don't really understand why
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@yodelerty Neither do I
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@foxgopher oh well, I assume this kind of thing happens sometimes
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@yodelerty Oh c'mon, we give worth to our own skills man. You gotta pat yourself on the back when you do well, even if it seems insignificant.
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@northernnarwhal But why praise myself when I didn't accomplish anything by getting decent at the game? It's not really a skill. And I'm not even that good at it anymore. So what did I really give myself by spending all that time on it?
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@yodelerty Okay, I'm decent at hitting things with sticks. It's not really a skill. So what did I really give myself by spending all that time on it?
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@northernnarwhal A passion for jazz!? :D
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@northernnarwhal Literally you could be in a band by doing that AND THE PERSONAL ENJOYMENT AND PASSION IS IMPORTANT! You did a lot by doing that. Come on, man.
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@northernnarwhal Woo!
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@yodelerty You could do Let's Plays or Walkthroughs, and you're telling me you didn't get personal enjoyment out of the game?
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@northernnarwhal Ever use brushes instead of sticks?
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@northernnarwhal I can't do let's plays because you have to have some sort of charisma or whatever to attract viewers. Plus, I no longer find joy in making videos. Also I don't really like the game as much as I used to anyway. Or video games in general. So it's hardly comparable to your drumming. Not even close.
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@scribus Yes, they're great for snares because they have a characteristically soft sound that's difficult to achieve otherwise. Lots of fun.
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@yodelerty I like your old Let's Plays, I thought you were a good host. But I guess if you've moved on that's your thing. You're right in that it is difficult to compare it to my drumming, but my point here is to celebrate the little victories, because they are there for you.
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@northernnarwhal I should celebrate little victories but I don't have little victories. Video game accomplishments should never count because they're not worth anything to me. Other than that I never do anything right and so I never have anything to celebrate.
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@yodelerty I can only assume along with you
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@foxgopher How's it going over there then?
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@yodelerty With that attitude you'll never have anything to celebrate, Dane :( Stop being so hard on yourself
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@northernnarwhal Neat.
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@northernnarwhal I think it's more that I don't like doing anything so I have nothing to actually achieve anything in. So there's nothing worth celebrating if I do nothing, right? Sort of sucks but I'm pretty worthless anyway so I'll never really like anything or do anything so whatever.
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@yodelerty You don't have to be like that, you know. You just need the right motivation.
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@northernnarwhal But I've been off school for a year and a half and I haven't found anything remotely resembling motivation. No matter what I do.
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@yodelerty You know, in Aristotle's book on ethics his opening statement is something along the lines of "Human beings all strive towards happiness". None of us want to do things that will make us sad, that's counter intuitive. But motivation also goes hand in hand with effort. I really want you to keep doing those non-zero days like I told you about, because then you at least be making an effort.
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@yodelerty Uh I'm not really good I guess
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@foxgopher Lame. :/ Sorry man. Hope it's going okay with you guys' parents
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@yodelerty Yeah idk yet
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@northernnarwhal I haven't been doing those at all because I keep napping because I'm always so tired after work. And afterwards I wake up and cry because I wasted an evening. Also literally nothing seems appealing at all and I hate everything as much as I want to be doing something which is stupid as hell
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@foxgopher Ah. I guess the waiting is the hardest part
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@yodelerty Dude, always. I'm real nervous
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@foxgopher There, there *pat pat* It'll work out I'm sure
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@yodelerty Whoa no pat
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@yodelerty Just stop thinking and start doing. It's my artistic philosophy. The more you dwell on something the more bad vibrations you'll get, just try and achieve the feeling of doing something by doing it.
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@foxgopher oops
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@northernnarwhal I guess. But what do I do then? I haven't found any joy in learning the bass and I cry every time I draw something or attempt to make anything in Logic Pro so idk what else to do.
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@yodelerty What have you drawn? I'd love to see some of the things you've drawn if it's okay with you. You can even send it to me privately over Skype.
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@northernnarwhal I guess I could do that. It's all really awful and literally most 5-year-olds can do better than me
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@yodelerty I ain't wanna bite
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@foxgopher Pfft like you would
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@yodelerty I MIGHT
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@foxgopher Nah man you'd never
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@yodelerty Hey, I'm not that great either. I just try my best and try to improve myself whenever I do try something. Anything artistic (not just drawing) that I've done has been done for myself as a means of catharsis and creative stimulus.
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@yodelerty I did one time
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@northernnarwhal I just haven't found any joy in drawing either. And I WANT to do something artistic but maybe I just don't like anything artistic? Which sucks because then I'll have to become something technical and I really don't want to like anything like that. Maybe I'm just not creative.
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@foxgopher Eh?
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@yodelerty I do a lot of abstract art where I just start drawing and try not to stop until I'm done. That's always a lot of fun because there's no "right" or "wrong", you just express your emotions in a very intrinsic and primal form.
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@yodelerty It's true man. I'm a biter
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@northernnarwhal I.. could do that? I guess? It doesn't sound that fun. :/ Maybe I just don't like anything.
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@foxgopher I don't believe
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@yodelerty It's LOTS of fun, you start playing with colours and shapes you didn't even know existed. Here's one of my personal favourites of the abstract art I've done, it's pretty much pure abstraction in the sense that it's holistically non representational. http://rainbowdash.net/attachment/802343
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@yodelerty ASK JOHN
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@northernnarwhal I'm not sure I understand. At all. Sorry. :/ I'm being awful. I just don't get how it would help. Especially since doing things with no real aim makes me upset at myself and sad. Hence why I can't just play notes on my bass to count as practice. It doesn't work.
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@foxgopher Huh? John?
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@yodelerty Because I know you're the kind of person with a lot of anguish inside you, the aim of it is to express yourself using it as a medium
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@northernnarwhal Too bad I'm terrible at any sort of art and hate everything I spew out.
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@yodelerty Yeah yeah
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@foxgopher I don't know a John
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@yodelerty Yeah you do. You probs don't know who exactly it is
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@foxgopher How am I going to ask him if I don't know who he is
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@yodelerty That comes with being an artist, you tend to dislike a lot of what you do. One of my biggest issues right now is that I struggle with my ego and how much of it influences me and what I do as well as create. I have to ask myself that if I'm just perpetuating my own internalized feelings, am I merely serving the self or am I independent of that?
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@northernnarwhal It's so much disliking most of what I do as loathing with all my being everything I do. I'm not sure what that last part means honestly. It's above my level of English knowledge.
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@yodelerty I'll say it means I'm a pretentious hack
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@yodelerty Good question! uh..
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@northernnarwhal I'm gonna say you aren't and it means something more complicated than that but I'm not smart enough to understand it.
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@foxgopher WHO IS JOHN
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@yodelerty I'm sorry, I'm awful at this aren't I?
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@northernnarwhal Nah. I'm the awful one.
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@yodelerty Maybe everyone's just awful and we should all stop worrying so much
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@northernnarwhal Um some people are excellent like you
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@yodelerty Me? Gosh, I dunno about that :p
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@northernnarwhal Uh yeah. You. You're fantastic and I LOVE seeing people passionate about things. It's so refreshing from seeing myself. And I've never personally known anyone like you.
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@yodelerty Stealous
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@foxgopher His name is John? Damn, I've been racking my brain trying to remember what it was.
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@yodelerty You're just really nice to me
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@northernnarwhal I think you deserve it
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@yodelerty I think it's just Jon
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@foxgopher Now I don't know
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@yodelerty I mean neither do I
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@foxgopher top confusion
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@yodelerty Secret missions
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@foxgopher wot
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@yodelerty SECRET SECRETS
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@foxgopher WHAT
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@yodelerty MWAHAHA
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@scribus YES
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@foxgopher i'm out of the loop again
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@yodelerty There isn't one
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@foxgopher but there must be
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@foxgopher Because you're saying stuff and laughing when I don't understand so there must be :CCCC
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@yodelerty It's cause I'm cray
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@foxgopher well you're not wrong
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@yodelerty I know it
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@foxgopher You're so smart
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@foxgopher YESSSSSSSS
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@yodelerty You silly
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@foxgopher Uh no just dumb
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