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How to disable a cat with a paper clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDGHgrf2WZw
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:38:16 UTC from Choqok-
@broniebrown Wat
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:39:31 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 Cats have a built-in mechanism from kittenhood to disable them. When the mommy cat wants them to behave, she bites them on the back of the neck and they just freeze.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:41:28 UTC from web-
@thelastgherkin @ceruleanspark @purplephish20 Many animals have that, in fact. Holding a dog by the neck makes it cease resistance. But cats are just cooler like that.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:46:46 UTC from web-
@nerthos I don't know much about things that aren't cats.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:49:28 UTC from web-
@thelastgherkin Sadly I've had many animals over the years, which makes me now hate many species that I once liked. Cats are a exception, I never get tired of them.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:50:56 UTC from web
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@thelastgherkin @ceruleanspark Interesting, I thought the kittens being so ok with that was just a strong instict of absolute trust in their mother
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:47:30 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 *instinct
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:47:57 UTC from web -
@purplephish20 Never lifted a kitten?
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:49:22 UTC from web-
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:49:54 UTC from web
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@purplephish20 They might get nervous and meow, but they don't fight back.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:51:19 UTC from web
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@purplephish20 Trust is a human concept. If an animal is friendly towards you, its because it is because it doesn't consider you a threat.
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@ceruleanspark Aren't those 2 sentences hypocritical of each other? Doesn't the second sentence imply that an animal can Trust you to not be a threat?
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:54:44 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 You don't trust a box, yet you do not react with wariness to it.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:55:47 UTC from web-
@nerthos A box is not an independent thinking entity that can make a decision whether or not to kill me
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:56:52 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 I think you didn't understand what I was trying to say, and instead you keep associating trust/mistrust with calm/wariness
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:58:30 UTC from web-
@nerthos @ceruleanspark Interesting. cats are complicated...
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:03:01 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 Cats are the nicest.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:03:35 UTC from web -
@purplephish20 People are complicated with their squishy relationships and their tangled webs of lies and misdirection. Animals are straightforward. If a cat doesn't like you, he bites you. If a person doesn't like you...who the hell knows?
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@ceruleanspark But can a cat really like you? Or simply cease hostility on the grounds of pleasant treatment? Like being fed...
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:07:10 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 Well, even if it is just reflex and there's nothing to it, it's comforting and predictable.
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@purplephish20 They are perfectly capable of liking you.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:09:57 UTC from web-
@nerthos @ceruleanspark Either way they're more intelligent than we give them credit for... http://ur1.ca/b5o5h
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:10:35 UTC from web-
@purplephish20 "You're cat" Hah, I wish. It would be nice to be a cat.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:16:12 UTC from web-
@nerthos Cats have it all figured out. I've said this for years.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:17:14 UTC from web-
@thelastgherkin The Canadian TV show "Kid vs Kat" is an accurate representation of cat life.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:18:22 UTC from web-
@nerthos The cat in that show is actually an alien, so
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:19:34 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@yodelerty An alien cat. A very charismatic alien cat.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:19:59 UTC from web-
@nerthos I've only ever watched like one episode but I get what you're saying.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:21:17 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@yodelerty It's one of the few couple shows I actually bothered watching.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:23:20 UTC from web
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Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:18:36 UTC from web
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@greenenchilada Can I please set you aflame? "Animal rights" guys always infuriated me.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:19:18 UTC from web-
@nerthos People who think humans should have an infinite amount of rights and animals should have none are equally annoying to me. Can I set you on fire as well?
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:22:55 UTC from web-
@omni Let's reach a compromise. I will design an artificial intelligence designed to boostrap a wiser, impartial artificial intelligence to set everyone on fire.
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@ceruleanspark Sounds fair to me, why the hell not.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:25:28 UTC from web-
@omni That's the thing about letting a computer train a computer. You can never be certain what rules it's imparting to the next generation.
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@ceruleanspark Especially not if it's randomly generated: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/random_number.png
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:28:21 UTC from web
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@ceruleanspark BRB stocking on extinguishers and EMP greanades.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:26:40 UTC from web-
@nerthos An artificial intelligence doesn't have to be a computer. It could be a neuron gel cultured on a plate.
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@ceruleanspark Ok, replace EMP with antimatter.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:30:41 UTC from web
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@omni Oh god there's always one of them. Sure, try, not my fault if you're utterly humilliated when you actually try to do it. My problem is not with animal rights, I'm perfectly OK with the concept. My problem is how activists deal with the problem. They're obnoxious.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:25:11 UTC from web-
@nerthos Ah, you're one of those people that believe everyone who fights for animal rights acts like a crazy idiot from PETA. Fortunately, most don't. The PETA ones are simply the loudest (and most hypocritical).
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:26:26 UTC from web-
@omni @nethos Oh man both of you guys' strawman arguments are hilarious to read
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:27:27 UTC from web-
@redenchilada I have "real" arguments, I just simply do not wish to end up in a heated flamewar here again and be blamed for everything, the only thing I care about right now is making sure @nerthos knows that not everyone who fights for animal rights will slap you in the face the moment you say "chicken" or something as silly as that.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:29:34 UTC from web-
@omni That'd be fun! I'd get to break many hands.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:31:19 UTC from web -
@omni I didn't see him saying that. I saw him saying he dislikes the loud screaming segment of it.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:31:22 UTC from web
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@redenchilada I don't think strawman means what you think it does.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:30:48 UTC from web -
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:31:55 UTC from web
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@redenchilada I put my effort on that.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:33:08 UTC from web
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@omni Sadly, every single one I've ever met is a paranoid idiot who sees animal abuse even in things where there are no animals involved. I've lost faith. You can't say something like "I hope that dog shuts up" without a little group of retards screaming at you. And the worst thing is, they won't even properly face you, they'll just hide behind their internet or throw paint at you and then hope they're faster runners.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:30:25 UTC from web-
@nerthos I'm sorry to hear about that, and I hope you will run into more decent ones in the future, as I know enough of them exist.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:34:01 UTC from web-
@omni Let's hope so. I'm kind of hyped about finding one of the annoying ones IRL, though, and making him mad.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:35:07 UTC from web-
@nerthos Someone being a jerk does not justify being a jerk yourself. Even though the reaction is logical, you're somewhat provoking them to act annoying to you by acting annoying to them.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:36:38 UTC from web-
@omni Exactly. Good fun, with a bit of justice sauce!
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:50:00 UTC from web
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@greenenchilada Ooh, corrupt-a-wish? I wish I was in a videogame.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:20:20 UTC from web-
@redenchilada Dark Souls.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:22:34 UTC from web -
@redenchilada Granted, but you have to play Superman 64 forever. I wish it would snow.
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Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:06:40 UTC from StatusNet iPhone-
@yodelerty The cat knows it's karate well...
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:10:52 UTC from web
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@purplephish20 Not quite. A kitten doesn't "trust" its mother because kittens don't exactly plan ahead. That's why animals react better to sudden change than people, they don't have a preconcieved notion of "Future" that they need to "Correct" before taking an action.
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@purplephish20 That is where a mother cat would pick up her kittens. The instant muscle relaxation is a holdover reflex from that.
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@broniebrown Remove the batteries.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:44:19 UTC from web-
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 16:52:27 UTC from Choqok
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@thatonestocking Advanced entities are often perceived as evil by less developed ones. Take the whole middle ages witchcraft thing, for example.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:12:55 UTC from web -
@thatonestocking No, softness is in their fur.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:18:39 UTC from web -
@thatonestocking I'm pretty sure there's only fur in their fur.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:19:24 UTC from web -
@thatonestocking Better than evil disguised as evil. Cats>humans. They're not evil, they just don't care.
Tuesday, 20-Nov-12 17:22:21 UTC from web
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