1. Honestly, sometimes I wonder if making this place's homepage show Popular or Promoted Notices instead of Public for people who aren't logged in might be a better way to attract new users.

    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 19:53:36 UTC from web
    1. @redenchilada You'd only lose them the moment they get on public.. also. Have you looked through the Popular notices? I don't think that's a good idea..

      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 19:55:12 UTC from web
      1. @mrdragon I dunno, maybe the site design focuses too much on Public. It really gives off that "this place is just a big chatroom" vibe, and it'd be nice to see a bit of actual networking here and there instead of the place being dominated by a few active users asking each other what they had for lunch. Maybe it's just me, though.

        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 19:58:56 UTC from web
        1. @redenchilada I had toast.

          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 19:59:32 UTC from web
        2. @redenchilada I've got some leftover spinach alfredo pizza. :d

          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 20:00:11 UTC from MuSTArDroid
        3. @redenchilada The site's shrunk, really, from when I had it and when Cabal had it. But that's because the fandom has changed, back then we could all talk about meeting up and ponies and such all day. Now, well. We lost the Meetup side, that's now gone to other sites, multiple other social networks have popped up and taken over this places thunder and on top of that some users like to clog up the timeline with overly depressive stupid stuff nearly every day without fail or there's users that are just absolute buttholes (I am one, I will admit), so either way it's really not in the best state right now

          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 20:04:02 UTC from web
          1. @mrdragon See, that's exactly the problem. Our old niche has been taken and we really haven't been able to come up with a new one.

            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 20:05:16 UTC from web
            1. @redenchilada You are to limited, Red, there is very little you can do. The fandom has splintered in to far to many different groups/parties/sites and it's going to be very hard to come up with something.. You could tack things on, artist site to go with this, maybe some music site along with it. But I hate to say it, then you are just like every other site. Cloudsdale has taken over this sites original idea, and sadly.. that place is growing all the time. If you want my personal opinion, RDN isn't going to go anywhere, it's thunder is over and it's message said and lost. It's possible it will be able to keep going as it is, but apart from that no. I can of course get you reaffiliated with PonySquare and BronySquare. I run both websites now with population of several thousand, so maybe I can get you some traffic, but I think even you see what I mean by RDN has pretty much had it as it is.

              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 20:07:51 UTC from web
              1. @mrdragon Eh. It's not too bad, at least; if you look at the place as a community instead of a social network it's very good at that job. I guess I just think about things like this too much.

                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 20:10:08 UTC from web
                1. @redenchilada As a community, yes, it's fine. But as a social network.. it's had it's days. As for Traffic, it used to pump out a lot, back when I and Cerulean had it. Now though I have no idea.

                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 20:11:30 UTC from web
                2. @redenchilada @mrdragon This site's nature is not compatible with the splintered bronydom of these last months. What makes this site better than others is also it's downside. RDN outclasses other sites in regards to community, but it is limited in the amount of users that can coexist at any given time because of the way it works. This site focuses in making a community out of many different people, while other social sites focus on splintered groups of similar people. The appeal of RDN is that feeling of all the community knowing eachother, that feeling of "home" that no other place has, and that is exactly why there will never be thousands of active users. Other sites work in "circles" of users with no given number of them, separate from eachother, which could only be accomplished here by shifting activity from public to personal. In short, RDN is like a town, where all the people know eachother, while other social networks are like cities with thousands of strangers walking by.

                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 21:56:15 UTC from web
                  1. @nerthos The concept of the site could be changed to allow thousands of users to be here, but it would destroy what makes this place feel like a home. All those users wouldn't interact with eachother, they would just devolve into small, separate groups. That is the nature of the fandom right now, not a big community, but a multitude of small and very different groups.

                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 21:59:00 UTC from web
                    1. @nerthos RDN is a relic from a better time. It fitted what the fandom was on it's earlier days.

                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 21:59:47 UTC from web
                  2. @nerthos Are we one of those new england towns that has its share of secrets that an out-of-town writer slowly discovers as he and the town face off against an emergin seemingly unstoppable terror?

                    Sunday, 14-Apr-13 06:31:43 UTC from web
                    1. @publictimeline No.

                      Sunday, 14-Apr-13 17:34:39 UTC from web
        4. @redenchilada This could be a stupid question, but what do/did you mean by "actual networking"? What would that entail, exactly, for this site?

          Saturday, 08-Jun-13 16:04:58 UTC from web
    2. @vt3c Same. It's why I've stuck to this place and why I'll never leave it.

      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:03:41 UTC from web
      1. @nerthos I like the more "segregated" social networking sites at times but I feel like they don't work as well for a specific-purpose site such as "pony fandom social networking". I like RDN because you have the option for both depending on if you use Public or Personal. Personally, I feel like encouraging Personal more (like, sending users there after logon but leaving the links to Public where they are) would be an ideal compromise. Then people who want the unified community can use Public and people who don't know that Personal exists.

        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:07:56 UTC from web
        1. @redenchilada I feel like this site would be pointless if you didn't use public, honestly. I've never used the personal timeline

          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:09:12 UTC from web
          1. @rarity Yeah I don't wanna say that Public should be /discouraged/. It just seems that a lot of new people don't know Personal is an option, and they might be more willing to stay if they have that option (option. As in, neither required nor encouraged more than the alternative)

            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:12:01 UTC from web
            1. @redenchilada making it the default seems like encouraging it more than the alternative, but okay.

              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:14:48 UTC from web
              1. @rarity Well, the logo and Home would still link to Public. When I say log on I mean "go to the Login page and enter your name and password". People will still see Public when they pull up the site and before they register so it's still made obvious that it's a thing.

                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:18:07 UTC from web
                1. @redenchilada okay

                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:19:39 UTC from web
                2. @redenchilada Let's back up here: What's the proposed end goal here?

                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:20:50 UTC from web
                  1. @ceruleanspark Dragon mentioned something about the average banter on Public scaring people off and I was wondering if encouraging Personal to new users a bit more might be good for that but honestly I don't know what I'm really trying to say any more.

                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:25:40 UTC from web
                    1. @redenchilada To be honest there's a strong case for banning all of the old regulars because they make public incredibly new-user hostile 90% of the time. The site is incredibly cliquey and I'm not really certain of how to overcome it.

                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:27:22 UTC from web
                      1. @ceruleanspark That's a big problem too. Honestly rule 1 is probably one of the worst-enforced and getting that under control definitely needs to become a thing.

                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:30:10 UTC from web
                        1. @redenchilada That's a matter of the administration giving me the green light to go full inquisitor.

                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:32:09 UTC from web
                    2. @redenchilada Personal on-login combined with force-following a cross section of the sites less awful users ala twitter is probably a solid compromise

                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:28:08 UTC from web
                      1. @ceruleanspark It'd be nice to give Personal a "suggested users" sidebar section to encourage that kind of thing, honestly.

                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:31:11 UTC from web
                      2. @ceruleanspark @redenchilada doing suggested users would just be showing favoritism, something I thought you guys wanted to avoid.

                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:31:57 UTC from web
                        1. @rarity It'd be an automatically-generated list based on groups the user is in, who the guys they're following are following, etc. Like what Twitter does.

                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:33:27 UTC from web
                          1. @redenchilada but then I might get on that list and I'm the last person who should be

                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:34:22 UTC from web
                        2. @rarity It's not favoritism. It's making people see the site as friendly by showing them friendly people first, the same way a touristic town shows the hotels and landscapes instead of the back alleys and hobos, so that by the time they discover the bad side they already have a good concept of the site.

                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:34:01 UTC from web
                          1. @nerthos it would be saying "you see this guy? He is better than all of you."

                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:34:55 UTC from web
                            1. @rarity "You see this guy? This guy likes new users, unlike mister Rarity here who antagonizes half of the new people"

                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:35:37 UTC from web
                              1. @nerthos you're laboring under the assumption that half of the new people deserve to be treated nicely.

                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:36:40 UTC from web
                                1. @rarity See that line of tought is exactly the problem. I've seen a fair number of people be "reformed" after staying for a while.

                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:37:53 UTC from web
                                  1. @nerthos Not that I'm denying that I'm one of the most elitist a**holes this place has seen, but I know when to stop and try to do something for the good of the site at large.

                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:39:50 UTC from web
                                2. @rarity This kind of attitude is /exactly/ why I'm suggesting using personal more.

                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:38:04 UTC from web
                                  1. @redenchilada @nerthos But it's true. Don't even try to deny it.

                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:40:26 UTC from web
                                    1. @rarity Let me give you an example: Pokestrike used to get in trouble with everyone the first days he was here, but now he's a perfectly good and respectable member of the community.

                                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:42:54 UTC from web
                                      1. @nerthos and what of the other annoying new kids who batcave everyone off then leave?

                                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:45:47 UTC from web
                                        1. @rarity That seems like a problem which resolves itself.

                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:46:34 UTC from web
                                        2. @rarity By encouraging the use of personal they would probably stay enough to get used to the place and stop being batcaves.

                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:46:44 UTC from web
                                          1. @nerthos @rarity And if they insist on being pricks they just get banned.

                                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:47:38 UTC from web
                            2. @rarity Only if you consider "Most likely to be selected by random number generator" a mark of superiority

                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:37:07 UTC from web
                              1. @ceruleanspark If I change my account name and avatar to Vriska, will I appear on 100% of people's recommended user lists?

                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:39:13 UTC from web
                                1. @scoot Please don't you'll break the site.

                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:40:47 UTC from web
                                  1. @nerthos I won't because then some new user will take my name

                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:42:14 UTC from web
                                    1. @scoot Moderators can actually warn anyone who does that to give your name back, and admins can seize the account and change it if neccesary.

                                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:45:49 UTC from web
                                      1. @nerthos See then I'd be causing issues for site staff just to get my silly name back.

                                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:46:29 UTC from web
                                        1. @scoot Don't you go by cptscoot also?

                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:46:56 UTC from web
                                          1. @mastertdi Yeah but Scoot is my preference. I use the "Cpt" prefix when I can't get "Scoot"

                                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:47:30 UTC from web
                                            1. @scoot Still, it's something to fall back on. Though I'm confused as to why you think it's so likely that someone will think up the same name as you/

                                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:48:58 UTC from web
                                              1. @mastertdi I am CptScoot everywhere because Scoot is always taken.

                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:49:33 UTC from web
                                                1. @scoot You're too slow.

                                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:50:32 UTC from web
                                                  1. @mastertdi C'mon, step it up

                                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:50:59 UTC from web
                                                    1. @scoot That tornado is carrying a car.

                                                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:51:17 UTC from web
                                                      1. @mastertdi Gotta be careful not to fall off here.

                                                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:51:59 UTC from web
                                                        1. @scoot Because we're Sonic Heroes!

                                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:52:59 UTC from web
                                                          1. @mastertdi It's no use!

                                                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:53:42 UTC from web
                                                            1. @scoot If you have time to worry, then run!

                                                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:55:07 UTC from web
                                                              1. @mastertdi Your smile, that's all I need!

                                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:55:24 UTC from web
                                                                1. @scoot Piece of cake! No sweat!

                                                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:56:14 UTC from web
                                                                  1. @mastertdi That blue hedgehog again of all places!

                                                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:56:36 UTC from web
                                                                    1. @scoot DON'T TOUCH IT!

                                                                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:57:14 UTC from web
                                                                      1. @mastertdi It all starts with this, a jewel containing the ultimate power! That's the... Chaos emerald! Now I get it, the military has mistaken me for you! So, what're you gonna do with that emerald? Say something, you fake hedgehog! ...Chaos CONTROL! He's Fast! Hey, it's not his speed, he must be using the Chaos Emerald to warp! My name is Shadow, I'm the world's ultimate life-form, there's no time for games, farewell! Kuu!

                                                                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:00:01 UTC from web
                                                                        1. @scoot tl;dr

                                                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:00:26 UTC from web
                                                                          1. @mastertdi I just manually wrote out a whole Sonic Adventure 2 cutscene and you don't even appreciate it ;_;

                                                                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:04:27 UTC from web
                                                                            1. @scoot Manually? Dude, I just used wikipuote.

                                                                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:04:51 UTC from web
                                                                              1. @mastertdi quote. Ugh. How did I even

                                                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:05:03 UTC from web
                                                                              2. @mastertdi I wrote all of mine manually from memory

                                                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:05:13 UTC from web
                                                                                1. @scoot I had to look up the last couple, to try and out-funny you.

                                                                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:05:38 UTC from web
                                                                                  1. @mastertdi I win, then

                                                                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:05:51 UTC from web
                                                                                    1. @scoot I'll get you next time, Sonic

                                                                                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:06:16 UTC from web
                                                                                      1. @mastertdi Faker? I think you're the fake around here! You're comparing yourself to me? Hah! You're not even good enough to be my fake!

                                                                                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:07:39 UTC from web
                                                                                        1. @scoot I'll make you eat those words m8

                                                                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:09:04 UTC from web
                                                                                          1. @mastertdi I'm the coolest!

                                                                                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:09:39 UTC from web
                                                                                            1. @scoot PATHETIC HUMANS

                                                                                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:10:05 UTC from web
                                                                                              1. @mastertdi Never fear, Amy Rose is here!

                                                                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:10:39 UTC from web
                                                                                                1. @scoot I'm ashamed to call myself a treasure hunter

                                                                                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:11:20 UTC from web
                                                                                                  1. @mastertdi YEAH, ROUGE, SHE'S SEXY AND SMOOTH

                                                                                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:12:20 UTC from web
                                                                                                    1. @scoot Look what you did to MY emerald!

                                                                                                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:12:52 UTC from web
                                                                                                      1. @mastertdi What you see is what you get, just a guy that loves adventure!

                                                                                                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:14:44 UTC from web
                                                                                                        1. @scoot My machine's reached its limit!

                                                                                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:15:21 UTC from web
                                                                                                          1. @mastertdi En Guarde, Tails!

                                                                                                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:15:36 UTC from web
                                                                                                            1. @scoot All I do know is, we did it together!

                                                                                                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:16:08 UTC from web
                                                                                                              1. @mastertdi It's hard to keep up with someone just taking quotes from a website.

                                                                                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:17:48 UTC from web
                                                                                                                1. @scoot Hey shut up man I don't remember quotes well.

                                                                                                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:18:29 UTC from web
                                                                                                                  1. @mastertdi I'll use your technique, Chaos Control!

                                                                                                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:19:50 UTC from web
                                                                                                                    1. @scoot Get out, you ugly prototype!

                                                                                                                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:20:52 UTC from web
                                                                                                                      1. @mastertdi Sayonara, Shadow... The Hedgehog...

                                                                                                                        Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:21:38 UTC from web
                                                                                                                        1. @scoot Not bad for an imposter

                                                                                                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:22:01 UTC from web
                                                                                                                          1. @mastertdi The servers are the seven chaos. Chaos is power, power is enriched by the heart. The controller serves to unify the chaos.

                                                                                                                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:24:23 UTC from web
                                                                                                                            1. @scoot That blue hedgehog, here of all places.

                                                                                                                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:24:57 UTC from web
                                                                                                                              1. @mastertdi I already said that one, game over I win

                                                                                                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:25:14 UTC from web
                                                                                                                                1. @scoot Buh

                                                                                                                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:25:43 UTC from web
                                                                                                                            2. @scoot @mastertdi I found Maria's name among those who died when the ARK was shut down. She meant everything to me and I couldn't bear the thought that she died because of my research. I lost everything. I had nothing more to live for... I went insane.

                                                                                                                              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:43:51 UTC from StatusNet Android
                                                                                                                              1. @redenchilada How late can you be

                                                                                                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:45:20 UTC from web
                                                                                                                                1. @mastertdi I couldn't be later if I'd died in a nuclear explosion

                                                                                                                                  Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:49:20 UTC from StatusNet Android
                                                                                                                                  1. @redenchilada Why would you say that. That's inapripyat.

                                                                                                                                    Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:50:34 UTC from web
                                                                                                                              2. @redenchilada My mom is a Maria =(

                                                                                                                                Saturday, 13-Apr-13 23:45:32 UTC from web
                                        2. @scoot It's not actually a problem, it's a matter of making two posts and clicking a couple buttons.

                                          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:47:09 UTC from web
                                          1. @nerthos I hate to make a ruckus either way

                                            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:47:46 UTC from web
                    3. @redenchilada @cerulean Letting people know about personal is important because sometimes public is full of crap and people login and say "f*** this I'll leave until it's over". Encouraging the use of personal would get rid of that. Also yeah, the hostility towards new users is something we have to deal with.

                      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:28:52 UTC from web
        2. @redenchilada Considering public is one of the things that sets RDN apart from other sites, downplaying it seems like a step in the wrong direction.

          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:12:09 UTC from web
          1. @scoot I'm not /saying/ to downplay Public. I'm saying that making Personal better-known wouldn't hurt. And honestly I'd stop after "logins direct to Personal" anyway to avoid downplaying Public.

            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:15:24 UTC from web
            1. @redenchilada Perhaps just make the button to Personal more obvious? It's currently locked away in a hide-away menu, it's no wonder new users don't know it exists. I still disagree with automatically taking users to Personal though.

              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:17:12 UTC from web
        3. @redenchilada That's not really a compromise, that's "Let's balkanise the site into small groups of people that don't interact".

          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:13:21 UTC from web
        4. @redenchilada Yes, it should be encouraged more. Some people haven't used it at all. I personally never touch it, but that's because I'm somewhat of a veteran. Personal should be given more importance so that people stop leaving when they have a fight with another user. Having both approaches would be really good. We should have one of those chatroom thing sessions with wiget about how to make this happen.

          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:13:35 UTC from web
        5. @redenchilada Something like this maybe.

          Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:25:35 UTC from web
          1. @nerthos Aaaaaaaahmed

            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:26:42 UTC from web
          2. @nerthos "The Ahmed Angel Network is the ideal place for you and your hand some friends to be elegant and talk about fashion!"

            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:26:46 UTC from web
            1. @nerthos What a wonderful !

              Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:27:18 UTC from web
          3. @nerthos >mfw still ahmed

            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:27:29 UTC from web
          4. @nerthos Something like that. Tbh just mentioning what Personal is for on the welcome page the site apparently loads after a new registration now would probably work well.

            Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:28:16 UTC from web
    3. @vt3c *Brohoof*

      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:15:30 UTC from web
    4. @vt3c Whoa that's a lot of hugs.

      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:15:40 UTC from web
    5. @vt3c Btw, were you able to find my Steam name? Sorry if I spelt it wrong or whatever. I can give it to you again if you want.

      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:16:33 UTC from web
    6. @snowlynx I think it'd need to contain some random elements in order to expose people to new things as well. Or people would just get stuck in their preassigned groups and never get out.

      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:43:10 UTC from web
    7. @snowlynx It doesn't matter if they do it on purpose. They're still annoyin.

      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:48:26 UTC from web
    8. @snowlynx People are stupid. If they think they're in the right they won't chage.

      Saturday, 13-Apr-13 22:50:54 UTC from web
    9. @widget Just saying, Google Plus is very useful for needs like that.

      Sunday, 14-Apr-13 06:42:01 UTC from web
    10. @widget Yeah, I guess it's in bad taste for a social networking site to use another social networking site tool's for something. Kinda like Twitter have a a page and group on Facebook.

      Sunday, 14-Apr-13 06:45:11 UTC from web
    11. @vt3c no

      Sunday, 14-Apr-13 08:30:19 UTC from web